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Jun 30, 2012 07:47 |  #1

To those of you who have had the opportunity to test the 5d Mark III, how is the high ISO performance compared to the 5d Mark II? Is it substantially better or just somewhat better?

2nd question. . .should I consider trading my 5d Mark II and my 70-200 mk II for the 5d Mark III?

It would break my heart to give up my highly-coveted 70-200 mk II. But if the 5d Mark III is that much better I might think about it.

What are your thoughts?


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Jun 30, 2012 08:57 |  #2

Less than a stop. ISO performance is NOT the reason for this upgrade.


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Jun 30, 2012 09:04 as a reply to  @ sempaidavid's post |  #3

Never shoot anything over ISO 3200 in my 5D2 as it's the max with Auto ISO.

But I had few ISO 25600 shoots over last week, which were more than happy!


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Jun 30, 2012 09:05 |  #4

what do you shoot?


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Jun 30, 2012 10:58 |  #5

bobbyz wrote in post #14652430 (external link)
what do you shoot?

Mostly family shots. . .kids on the run, sitting in the yard, and the occasional family portraits when the kids will be still long enough. Also, family candids. . .birthday parties, etc.


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Jun 30, 2012 11:03 |  #6

This isn't exactly what you're looking for but does give good gallery of the ISO performance of the MKIII, it's been posted on POTN before.

ISO Performance: 1DX versus 5D3 (external link)


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Jun 30, 2012 12:27 |  #7

sempaidavid wrote in post #14652408 (external link)
Less than a stop. ISO performance is NOT the reason for this upgrade.

OK. . .thanks so much David!


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Jun 30, 2012 13:12 |  #8

With kids who won't sit still, the AF in the 5d3 would be worthwhile if you found the 5d2 AF lacking. Like said, ISO performance is not a reason to upgrade to the III.


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Jun 30, 2012 16:12 |  #9
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Rigby470 wrote in post #14653035 (external link)
OK. . .thanks so much David!


This should be exactly what you are looking for:

http://www.cameralabs.​com …_III/high_ISO_n​oise.shtml (external link)

For me the upgrade is worth the money. But I dont know if its worth trading in a 70-200 mk II, maybe not.

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Jun 30, 2012 16:47 |  #10

BrickR wrote in post #14653180 (external link)
With kids who won't sit still, the AF in the 5d3 would be worthwhile if you found the 5d2 AF lacking. Like said, ISO performance is not a reason to upgrade to the III.

agree.


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Jun 30, 2012 16:55 |  #11

Camera_User87 wrote in post #14653689 (external link)
This should be exactly what you are looking for:

http://www.cameralabs.​com …_III/high_ISO_n​oise.shtml (external link)

For me the upgrade is worth the money. But I dont know if its worth trading in a 70-200 mk II, maybe not.

Cheers

this kind of does it for me. i'm going to buy a 5d iii even if the h1 and h2 are only suitable for bigfoot and loch ness monster footage it's definitely the less noisy of the two.




  
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Jun 30, 2012 21:38 |  #12

I think the less than one stop difference is comparing RAW to RAW.

It appears that there is more usable high ISO shooting JPEGs with 5D3... implying that in-camera conversions are better. Maybe two stops, but I'll leave it to folks more experienced with the two cameras than me, to confirm or deny this (I'm not rushing out to upgrade from my 5DII).

Usable high ISOs would be one of the top reasons I'd consider an upgrade... But I'm mostly a RAW shooter and am thinking I'd be better off trying out some of the different noise reduction sofwares, than changing cameras right now.


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Jun 30, 2012 23:17 |  #13

sempaidavid wrote in post #14652408 (external link)
Less than a stop. ISO performance is NOT the reason for this upgrade.

Less than a stop of what? I am guessing you mean less than a stop of noise difference, and you would be right. But that wasn't actually the question, or at least it shouldn't be the question.

There is a LOT more to high ISO performance than noise itself, and the 5d3 is 2/3rds stop better in EVERY way.... About 2/3rds stop less noise, 2/3rds stop better color accuracy (less washout), 2/3rds stop better tonal accuracy (really helps with B&W conversions), and 2/3rds stop better shadow and highlight recovery.

Add it all together and 25600 is as useable on the 5d3 as 6400 was for me on the 5d2, and I go freely to 12800 on my 5d3 where I would only go above 3200 on my 5d2 if I had no choice at all.


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Jul 01, 2012 00:06 |  #14

besides say weddings and nighttime high school sports where does one needs ISO6400 or higher. In that kind of ambient light it is going to be not good pictures but maybe I am wrong.


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Jul 01, 2012 00:11 as a reply to  @ bobbyz's post |  #15

I would say the biggest advantage of the 5DIII over the 5DII is dramatic improvement in accuracy and speed of focus, especially in low light. Both give excellent ISO 3200 results, but the 5DII will have a lot of missed focus shots while the 5DIII will be tack on almost every time. I would not worry at all about using ISO 3200 with either.


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