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G12 or S100?

 
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Jul 01, 2012 12:18 |  #1

i am planning to get a camera for underwater and backup camera. but i am not sure which 1 will be better in term of noise level control in low light.


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Jul 02, 2012 20:51 |  #2

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Jul 02, 2012 21:45 |  #3

I have to vote for the S100. DIGIC5 and f/2.0 in the S100 vs. DIGIC4 and f/2.8 in the G12. Those two features will make the S100 better in low light/noise situations. G12 is CCD, S100 is CMOS. Don't let anyone tell you that one is better than the other. I good CCD chip will outperform a bad CMOS chip; this is also true the other way around. There effectively is no difference between them. Both can be used in top-flight cameras or in $10 web-cams.




  
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Jul 02, 2012 22:48 |  #4

sambarino wrote in post #14663070 (external link)
I have to vote for the S100. DIGIC5 and f/2.0 in the S100 vs. DIGIC4 and f/2.8 in the G12. Those two features will make the S100 better in low light/noise situations. G12 is CCD, S100 is CMOS. Don't let anyone tell you that one is better than the other. I good CCD chip will outperform a bad CMOS chip; this is also true the other way around. There effectively is no difference between them. Both can be used in top-flight cameras or in $10 web-cams.

Agreed - the Digic 5 has made use of better NR technology over the G12.


I got the G12 because of the flipity screen. My 60D (and of course your 600D) also has it - and I can't live without it. My 60D is 95% of the time carrying my 70-300L - and my G12 is my carry-on 28-140mm and again - I am "Always" making use of the G12's flipity screen - even to the extent of having it facing 'inwards' as a natural protector.

If you don't need/want the flipity screen on a compact - well the s100 is the better camera (despite Canon's recent announcement of a lens defect on some)


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Jul 03, 2012 02:31 as a reply to  @ Immaculens's post |  #5

it will be a camera for my gf, she will be using it to do self portrait. therefore i am eyeing on G12.

I had lend her my 600D with 17-55 and she keep complaining its too heavy to do self portrait...

my worry is about the ISO performance. which perform better?


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Jul 03, 2012 08:18 |  #6

sambarino wrote in post #14663070 (external link)
I have to vote for the S100. .... the S100 better in low light/noise situations.

Immaculens wrote in post #14663309 (external link)
Agreed - the Digic 5 has made use of better NR technology over the G12.

cool79 wrote in post #14663814 (external link)
my worry is about the ISO performance. which perform better?

NR = Noise Reduction


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Jul 03, 2012 09:21 |  #7

If your girlfriend wants to do self-portraits and she thinks the 600D/17-55 is too heavy, she doesn't need a camera. She needs a tripod. The G12 with its flippy screen may help with self-portraits. The S100 is still a better camera when considering low-light performance and high-ISO noise control. I don't know, can either one of those cameras be fired remotely?




  
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Jul 03, 2012 09:27 |  #8

sambarino wrote in post #14664753 (external link)
... The G12 with its flippy screen may help with self-portraits. ... I don't know, can either one of those cameras be fired remotely?

that occurred to me as well - put the G12 on a tripod - flip the screen facing yourself - use a remote wired shutter release.

I've used a wired shutter release on my G12, but it does not have an IR sensor


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Jul 03, 2012 11:07 |  #9

sambarino wrote in post #14664753 (external link)
If your girlfriend wants to do self-portraits and she thinks the 600D/17-55 is too heavy, she doesn't need a camera. She needs a tripod. The G12 with its flippy screen may help with self-portraits. The S100 is still a better camera when considering low-light performance and high-ISO noise control. I don't know, can either one of those cameras be fired remotely?

Unless she wants to do teenage girl Facebook style self-portraits. Then she just needs an iPhone and a dirty bathroom mirror.:p


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Jul 03, 2012 21:45 |  #10

Seems like two awfully expensive/complicated choices for the purpose...


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Jul 20, 2012 02:20 |  #11

LowriderS10 wrote in post #14667731 (external link)
Seems like two awfully expensive/complicated choices for the purpose...

i will be using it for underwater function too.
also just tested out G12 last night, but the AF kind of sucks.
is there any spot focusing for manual mode?
i tried using auto mode and the spot focusing looks cool! but in the manual mode, is there a function that i can use?

Also the external flash isn't in eTTL mode when i select M mode!


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Jul 21, 2012 21:14 |  #12

For underwater use, I would choose the S over the G series because you'll have better option if you do decide to do wide angle shots. There are more available wet lens option.


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