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Jul 03, 2012 04:59 |  #2371

I am guessing but the more detailed shots in this thread are perhaps taken very close to the subject?


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Jul 03, 2012 06:31 |  #2372

Feather detail is a tricky subject. It takes only a little more distance from the subject to make it disappear.


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Jul 03, 2012 09:27 |  #2373

Looking for some opinions here so owners talk to me.

Headed out to Glacier NP in September and wanting something longer. A 500 isn't in the cards right now, so I've been looking around for other options. My current longest is the Sigma 120-400, which I just sold as I just wasn't fond of that lens. Nor am I truly fond of the 100-400. That leaves me with the 400 5.6 and this with TCs.

In addition to Glacier, I do alot of wildlife and BIF here at home. Having had a 500, weight won't truly be an issue for me. So I'm wondering if this might the right lens as a do all BIF and wildilfe lens. Pictures look great on here, so I'm eager to hear opinions.


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Jul 03, 2012 10:38 |  #2374

Really looking forward to taking this lens to RIAT on Sunday, clicky OS or no clicky OS.


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Jul 03, 2012 12:30 |  #2375

huntersdad wrote in post #14664784 (external link)
Looking for some opinions here so owners talk to me.

Headed out to Glacier NP in September and wanting something longer. A 500 isn't in the cards right now, so I've been looking around for other options. My current longest is the Sigma 120-400, which I just sold as I just wasn't fond of that lens. Nor am I truly fond of the 100-400. That leaves me with the 400 5.6 and this with TCs.

In addition to Glacier, I do alot of wildlife and BIF here at home. Having had a 500, weight won't truly be an issue for me. So I'm wondering if this might the right lens as a do all BIF and wildilfe lens. Pictures look great on here, so I'm eager to hear opinions.

I've never owned a 400 5.6L but owned a Sigma 150-500 OS, and Canon 100-400L.
Since you mentioned that weight is not an issue and you had a 500 in the past, one of your biggest drawbacks is already eliminated.
It is said that the 400 5.6L is one of the best lenses for BIFs (never tried one), I imagine the 120-300 OS + 1.4x TC won't be able to beat that.
I have used the 120-300 + 1.4x for BIFs and got really good results. A few pages back I posted Canada Geese flying towards me at about 30-40 mph and most shots came out well. But the same was true with my old 100-400L too.
What I can confirm is that using the 2x tc on the Sigma makes the BIFs a little more hit and miss. I do use that occasionally and feel that it still gives me as good of a keeper ratio as my old Sigma 150-500 OS did, however, the 100-400L was better compared to the Sigma 120-300 + 2x combo for BIFs.
As for the reach, obviously the 120-300 + 2x tc is the winner here, even though it is proven that it is not truly 600mm, comes close near infinity focus, but for closer objects it's a little bit shorter.

I like using the 2x Sigma tc on mine, probably I use that configuration most often (I shoot mostly birds). IQ is decent, nothing to write home about, but it's on my 7D and an 18mp crop sensor is pretty tough on lenses.
However, I think the best IQ compromise is the 1.4x tc (170-420mm). If you don't need 600mm, the 420mm images are really great expecially after my PP procedure. I was surprised to find that Sigma's 1.4x APO EX DG tc was better (at least my copy) than Kenko's highly regarded 300 DG Pro.

I am going to the Dayton air show this weekend and put my lens to the test. I am excited but somewhat not really looking forward to swinging my lens around for 5 hours due to the weight... I may actually take my 70-200 2.8 OS too with the tcs for events that happen closer :)

Anyway, good luck with your decision.


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Jul 03, 2012 13:56 |  #2376

gabebalazs wrote in post #14665625 (external link)
I may actually take my 70-200 2.8 OS too with the tcs for events that happen closer :)

Although I do take my 400/5.6 to airshows, I frequently find it too long. I have a Sigma 50-150/2.8 with 1.4x TC mounted on another body and the 400 plus that combo do great.


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Jul 03, 2012 18:11 |  #2377

huntersdad wrote in post #14664784 (external link)
Looking for some opinions here so owners talk to me.

Headed out to Glacier NP in September and wanting something longer. A 500 isn't in the cards right now, so I've been looking around for other options. My current longest is the Sigma 120-400, which I just sold as I just wasn't fond of that lens. Nor am I truly fond of the 100-400. That leaves me with the 400 5.6 and this with TCs.

In addition to Glacier, I do alot of wildlife and BIF here at home. Having had a 500, weight won't truly be an issue for me. So I'm wondering if this might the right lens as a do all BIF and wildilfe lens. Pictures look great on here, so I'm eager to hear opinions.

If you need to get to 420-600 mm this lens is the best out there, n0t counting the high $$$$ big canon primes. For $3200 + a 2x tc its as good as it gets. Or look for a used 500 f/4 IS. I may sell 120-300 os and 50-500 os and look for the used canon 500


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Jul 03, 2012 18:31 |  #2378

It's unlikely (unless you're very lucky) that you will find a used Canon 500/4 for under ~$5500 and I've seen them for well over $7K (which is more than the MkI version cost new). I love my 400 and it's a super BIF lens, but clearly not as versatile for multiple subjects as a zoom. Another lens to consider is an old 500/4.5, but they didn't have IS and you can't use it with a TC on a crop-body and maintain AF.

My current thought (I'm still wrestling with this one and debating the Sigma) is to buy a used 300/2.8 IS version I and use it with 1.4 and 2X TC's. A used one can be found for a bit over the price of the new 120-300 ( ~ $4K range). It does perform well with TC's but, as with any lens, the AF does slow down.


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Jul 03, 2012 19:28 |  #2379

icassell wrote in post #14667033 (external link)
It's unlikely (unless you're very lucky) that you will find a used Canon 500/4 for under ~$5500 and I've seen them for well over $7K (which is more than the MkI version cost new). I love my 400 and it's a super BIF lens, but clearly not as versatile for multiple subjects as a zoom. Another lens to consider is an old 500/4.5, but they didn't have IS and you can't use it with a TC on a crop-body and maintain AF.

My current thought (I'm still wrestling with this one and debating the Sigma) is to buy a used 300/2.8 IS version I and use it with 1.4 and 2X TC's. A used one can be found for a bit over the price of the new 120-300 ( ~ $4K range). It does perform well with TC's but, as with any lens, the AF does slow down.

I know I've been looking at the prices. I should of got one 3 years ago instead of a 150-500 0s, 50-500 os and the 120-300 os all bought new in the last 3 years. You know the old saying , Don't be a dunce buy once. And here I am still wanting one. The canon 300 2.8 IS version I is more of a lateral move in IQ and backwards without a zoom for me. I have seen some used canon 400 2.8 IS for under $6000. I think they are bigger and heavier than the 500 but not positive


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Jul 04, 2012 00:39 |  #2380

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Camera was a 7D
1st red kite is about 30% of original frame, 2nd about 60%. Both yellowhammers are only about 20% of original frame. The yellowhammers were about 25 feet away. I'm not really sure how much a picture can be cropped and still be OK. My PP (in LR3) is still a bit trial and error, so maybe could be improved. I did increase exposure on the 1st yellowhammer by 2/3 stop in PP.

Thats why, its just the heavy cropping thats all

As for PP, my standard processing from RAW is to simply increase sharpening from 25 to 50 strength, Thats all that i usually do, then apply contrast/exposure adjustments and for birds sometimes a hair of clarity and saturation...

Check out my Flickr below for some bird shots if you're curious, id post them but i didnt use the Sigma for them...

As for blowing yellow, i find the 7D struggles most with the red channel, tending to turn it magenta or blow it out completely, But my 30D did that too, with yellow it just tends to make it orange when in auto white balance...

Anyways for long lenses, this does seem to be the best kit short of going to a big Canon prime, the only other possible option is a Sigma 500mm f/4.5 HSM, which I have seen, shockingly enough, for under $2000 before, but you lose OS on it... But this seems to be handholdable, just...


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Jul 04, 2012 07:24 |  #2381

Jay T wrote in post #14661987 (external link)
here's two from before it broke. This is baby huey and a yellow warbler feeding her big baby. Thats amazing

OT -- damn I hate those cowbirds! Poor yellow warbler.


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Jul 05, 2012 11:39 |  #2382

Some from today.

Firstly, with the 1.4x TC:

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Jul 05, 2012 12:44 |  #2383

Amazing pictures, are they cropped much ?




  
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Jul 05, 2012 13:11 |  #2384

Thanks. Both the owls are cropped the most, the others have maybe lost a sliver at the edges but not a great deal.


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Jul 05, 2012 16:31 |  #2385

Fabulous shots.


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