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Jul 05, 2012 09:33 |  #4186

I can confirm at least this, I was quoted 10% on the 5D II and 20% on a 70-200mm (which was not in stock).


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Jul 05, 2012 13:00 |  #4187

I just got a 7d refurb and it has 25k shutter actuations and when i do a shot at iso 200 with body cap on for 30seconds it has more than 75 hot pixels is this too much i mean i just had a tech tell me to send in my 5d2 because it had like 25 rediculous about to just get my money back


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Jul 05, 2012 13:47 |  #4188

IA40D wrote in post #14674227 (external link)
I just got a 7d refurb and it has 25k shutter actuations and when i do a shot at iso 200 with body cap on for 30seconds it has more than 75 hot pixels is this too much i mean i just had a tech tell me to send in my 5d2 because it had like 25 rediculous about to just get my money back

Be sure to let us know the results. I'm hesitant to buy a refurb and this would really upset me if they didn't resolve it. For the savings I could put up with the inconvenience if they at least resolve the issue.


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Jul 05, 2012 13:48 |  #4189

yeah will see am on the phone on hold waiting for tech support as we speak


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Jul 05, 2012 13:59 as a reply to  @ IA40D's post |  #4190

they took back (meaning they paid return postage) a 60D from me because it had a fingerprint on the mirror. I probably would have lived with that but it also had almost 4K shots and the date showed it was a couple year old - wasn't worth the money "off" to me.

Interestingly, it had only ONE hot pixel in the iso 200 for 30 seconds test.




  
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Jul 05, 2012 14:05 |  #4191

Because canon presumably sold so much refurb with the recent '20% for anyone' sale, I wonder if that means remaining camera stock will be newer? For example, milk/bread, etc. will be pushed oldest-first on your grocery shelf...

As commented above, the refurb that I just returned (picked up two weeks ago before the general sale) had a date code indicating it was from the first couple months of production.

I doubt anyone will know, but interesting to speculate!
~ generally newer is better as the production tolerances and yields are tweaked thought experience...




  
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Jul 05, 2012 14:11 |  #4192

how did you figure out when it was manufactured and the tech i just talked to basically said the software out there is inaccurate and the number is not right so i can send it in to have it checked out but as i was very carefully opening the box when i did the first time im now thinking i will just package it back up return it and say good for you have a nice day


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Jul 05, 2012 14:13 |  #4193

IA40D wrote in post #14674528 (external link)
how did you figure out when it was manufactured and the tech i just talked to basically said the software out there is inaccurate and the number is not right so i can send it in to have it checked out but as i was very carefully opening the box when i did the first time im now thinking i will just package it back up return it and say good for you have a nice day

:confused:

I think you missed at least one comma or period in there somewhere.


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Jul 05, 2012 14:19 |  #4194

srry a little irritated was asking scott 911 how he figured out by the serial number when the 60d was produced. I just got off the phone with the tech and he basically said well that number the program gives is not accurate even though both programs read identical on my 5dmk2 and basically said it dropped down like that do to metering. But he also said the cameras are not used cameras they can't sell used cameras they are all off the line or returns from retailers so he couldn't believe 26k was the number but i do if it was sitting in a shop for a yr and someone looked at it ever day and pushed the shutter at 8fps its easy to get to 100 in a day. So i was very carful when i opened the box to not rip there label i am considering just sending it back with in there 14day period


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Jul 05, 2012 14:29 |  #4195

I'd just send it back. Sounds like you'll never be happy with that particular body so why bother keeping it?


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Jul 05, 2012 15:02 |  #4196

my concern is everyone says that software is pretty accurate i don't know why i cant get it to read on eos info but 26000 clicks on a body is a lot for a refurbished camera if you ask me


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Jul 05, 2012 15:07 |  #4197

It's definitely higher than the average for sure, but depending on the body it's still around 1/4 to 1/6th of the shutter. If you believe that you're going to get anywhere near the projected EOL of a shutter, you're probably shooting enough that shelling out the couple hundred bucks more to buy BNIB shouldn't be a huge deal.

I almost didn't bother checking the shutter count on my 7D, but I wanted to check to see if I could get gphoto working via linux distro and I did.. a little over 200 clicks, but that number means nothing to me - it otherwise looked like brand new and continues to work that way.


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Jul 05, 2012 15:11 |  #4198

i guess what concerns me is the tech basically discredited the software like that's not right and its less than that like 26k is more than it should have on it for a refurb.


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Jul 05, 2012 17:02 |  #4199

Actually, the tech could be right. The software reads 26,000+ but that count doesn't get reset when shutters get reset (as far as I know, I could be completely wrong). So, it could be that the camera was a demo model in a busy store (or maybe even a loaner?) that got returned to Canon to be refurbished (or repaired if the shutter failed). Shutter gets replaced but number doesn't change; you could have a brand new shutter on your hands.

If you were having any other issues with it (sorry I'm not keeping up with reading all the above posts) then they could do a clean and check for you and provide you with a shutter count, but yeah, probably just return it if it's going to bother you.


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Jul 05, 2012 17:04 |  #4200

I'd be more concerned about the 75+ hot pixels.


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