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Jul 05, 2012 18:47 |  #1

I would appreciate opinions on how the two cameras compare to each other.


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Jul 06, 2012 10:35 |  #2

I know these are older cameras that aren't as exciting, but I still want to know!


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Jul 06, 2012 10:50 as a reply to  @ TheBrick3's post |  #3

They are both great cameras. Despite their age and lack of featureset, these two FF cameras are said to produce some of the best digital image that rivals and still bests many new cameras today.

If you can get a good deal and don't mind the lack of features, they are wonderful image making devices.


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Jul 06, 2012 12:06 as a reply to  @ delhi's post |  #4

Do you think there's much of a difference between the 1Ds Mark II and the Canon 5Dc? I can't find much other than than 1D build.


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Jul 06, 2012 13:07 |  #5

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Do you think there's much of a difference between the 1Ds Mark II and the Canon 5Dc? I can't find much other than than 1D build.

The 1DsII has a vastly superior focusing system - the 5D cannot compare on that count. They both have similar noise performance. Personally, I think the 1DsII RAW files are tremendously versatile, and clean up very nicely in PP when - colors are amazing too. It is also 16mp versus 12 for the 5D.

I use a 1DsII and 5DII for nearly everything. But I always go with the 1DsII when I need quick and accurate focusing - no question.

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Jul 06, 2012 13:47 |  #6

Yup. AF is stellar on the 1dsII.

Weight and size can be an issue. Both camera's image files are great and take post-processing abuses well. I think that's due to their large pixel wells. Hahaha.... They don't make 'em like they used to!

You can buy 2 5dc for the price of a 1dsII. Or a newer 5d2 for that matter. So...


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Jul 06, 2012 14:54 |  #7

I own the 1Ds Mark II. Don't own the 5Dc but have used a friend's. So I'll share a few thoughts…

First, I am very happy with my 1Ds2. The speed and accuracy of its autofocus blows away any other camera I've used. Build quality is outstanding. Resolution is competitive with the brand new top-of-the-line 1DX. (16.7mp vs 18.1mp) I've done 20x30" prints and practically need a magnifying glass to see the pixels.

That said, the 5D has a few advantages. It is overall more portable since it's smaller and lighter. Its batteries are also smaller so it's easy to throw a few extras in your pocket if you're going to be shooting all day. File size is smaller (neither camera has sRAW, and 12.8mp is good enough for most print sizes.) And then obviously price. If you're shooting professionally maybe you'd want two 5D's instead of one 1Ds2.

If you're looking for an affordable full-frame body, you can't really go wrong either way.


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Jul 06, 2012 15:16 |  #8

I have just been trying 5Dc and 1Ds2 today to compare to my 1D3. I relly like the 1D3 but the FF temptation is ever present. I'm taking few RAWs home to evaluate but the first impression is that the 5Dc's ISO 3200 seems better. Colours are nice on both, AF while not bad on 5Dc is quite beyond the capabilities of 1Ds2 and 1D3. One thing I really didn't like on 1Ds2 though was it's control system. You always need to hold a button to change/adjust anything, scrolling between captured images is pain, zooming in is PITA and scrolling around in zoomed in picture is just moribund. And I missed the joystick of 1D3 but I'm still tempted :)


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Jul 06, 2012 15:22 |  #9

axl_kollar wrote in post #14680138 (external link)
One thing I really didn't like on 1Ds2 though was it's control system. You always need to hold a button to change/adjust anything, scrolling between captured images is pain, zooming in is PITA and scrolling around in zoomed in picture is just moribund. And I missed the joystick of 1D3 but I'm still tempted :)

I was less than thrilled about this when I first got my 1Ds2. But I have actually come to really appreciate it, because it's a lot harder to accidentally change settings while shooting. Though when you are viewing an image I don't really see any harm in "accidentally" zooming or panning within it. Haha.


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Jul 06, 2012 17:28 |  #10

dmnelson wrote in post #14680175 (external link)
I was less than thrilled about this when I first got my 1Ds2. But I have actually come to really appreciate it, because it's a lot harder to accidentally change settings while shooting. Though when you are viewing an image I don't really see any harm in "accidentally" zooming or panning within it. Haha.

true,
but on the other side, coming from 1D3 it's bit unnecessary IMO. It's hard to accidentally change anything on 1D3 and it's much easier to operate than 1Ds2

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having said that, after reviewing the images I took in the store I have to say that 1D3 holds it's own against the 1Ds2 at ISO3200 very comfortably.

So now I'm torn... I'd prefer the FF but the 1D3 has more bells and whistles... and 1Ds3 is way out of reach... :(


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Jul 06, 2012 22:41 |  #11

Thanks! I agree focusing would be far superior on the 1Ds-II but I think they're optically about the same.


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Jul 07, 2012 13:28 |  #12

The advantages of the 5D over the 1DsII are:

1. Smaller & Lighter
2. Battery is smaller, cheaper, and newer technology
3. Larger LCD

Other than that, I would consider the 1DsII superior in every other respect. However, they both create stunnning images.




  
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Jul 07, 2012 15:23 |  #13

I still get an urge every so often to pick one 1dsMk2. Very nice camera.


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Jul 09, 2012 17:25 |  #14

I've been looking at the 1DsII lately. I want dual card slots for backup, better AF, more feature customization, AF linked spot metering, etc. I have grips on my 5Ds always so I can't see size/weight being much of an issue. And I do change my settings accidentally at times. Decisions, decisions...




  
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Jul 28, 2012 00:05 |  #15

@TheBrick3 What did you end up getting ? I am also in the same boat and trying to decide...Leaning more toward the 1ds2....Mostly because of it will be portrait and kids involved...


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