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Jul 08, 2012 07:28 |  #1

I'm looking at buying my first macro lens, something around the 100mm mark. I'm interested to see opinions regarding what is available on the market...eg Canon, Sigma, Tamron.. and if L series is worth the extra?


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Jul 08, 2012 07:50 |  #2

xxx_mish_xxx wrote in post #14686756 (external link)
I'm looking at buying my first macro lens, something around the 100mm mark. I'm interested to see opinions regarding what is available on the market...eg Canon, Sigma, Tamron.. and if L series is worth the extra?

Do a search here, look at the different macro lens photo archives, read the reviews.
The question of "is it worth it" is subjective! Some only buy Canon L lens and say they never look back, others buy cheaper lens but get good pics. If you have the budget and are not afraid to spend - why not buy the best?


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Jul 08, 2012 07:58 |  #3

Optically, Canon's L and non-L 100mm macros are identical, so the only reason you're paying double for the L is build quality and the stabilizer; if these features don't matter you go with the standard one. Can't say much for third party brands as I've only used Canon's macros in the past.


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Jul 08, 2012 08:09 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #4

Most macro lenses are sharp and good IQ regardless of brand, so it's build quality and preference.

IMO whether crop or FF for working distance get at least a 100 (or greater). For greater added flexibility (especially when non-macro) get one with some kind of stabilization.

These are it Canon 100L, Sigma 150mm OS, and Sigma 105mm OS. I'm waiting to see what the Sigma 180mm OS is going to be like - if they ever release it!


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Jul 08, 2012 08:25 |  #5

Kolor-Pikker wrote in post #14686817 (external link)
Optically, Canon's L and non-L 100mm macros are identical, so the only reason you're paying double for the L is build quality and the stabilizer; if these features don't matter you go with the standard one.

The 100mm 2.8L Macro also features weather sealing.

I have this lens and love it!


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Jul 08, 2012 09:14 |  #6

xxx_mish_xxx wrote in post #14686756 (external link)
I'm looking at buying my first macro lens, something around the 100mm mark. I'm interested to see opinions regarding what is available on the market...eg Canon, Sigma, Tamron.. and if L series is worth the extra?

What are the intended subjects and what is your budget?


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Jul 08, 2012 09:18 as a reply to  @ Tony-S's post |  #7

A lot of people say they don't see the need for IS when it comes to macro, but I wouldn't be without it. I love the 100mm 2.8L IS.


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Jul 08, 2012 09:20 |  #8

i've had 60mm, 100mm and 100mm L from Canon. IQ on them is (for my eyes) the same, 100L feels like a better built and it's got IS if you need/want it.




  
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Jul 08, 2012 12:14 |  #9

You did not tell us two essential things: your camera body, and what you want to shoot. The first is important because of the FOV of a 60mm on a crop sensor is close to that of a 100mm on a "full frame" camera.

I shoot a crop sensor and use two macro lenses, the EF-S 60mm and the EF 100mm L. Both are superb. Consistent with what Rick wrote, I doubt most people could tell which of my shots were done with which lens. I prefer the 100mm for bugs because of the greater working distance (still not very big). I often use the 60mm for flowers.

Re whether the L is worth it:

Optically, Canon's L and non-L 100mm macros are identical

They are not identical, but they are very close, and I would be surprised if you could see a practical difference.

A lot of people say they don't see the need for IS when it comes to macro, but I wouldn't be without it.

From my informal tests, I think the hybrid IS on the 100L gets me about 1.5 stops at minimum focusing distance. I think Canon may advertise 2. At long distances, the IS does more. Whether it is worth it depends on what you shoot. For tripod-mounted work it is worthless, of course. For handheld, it is a help as long as the subject stands still. Many of my bug shots are done with flash, and for those, I doubt it helps, although I have not tested that directly.

I have never used macro lenses other than those by Canon. Canon's are internally focusing (they don't extend when focusing), which is good for bugs. I think some others are not. Also, I would not want to be without full-time manual focusing for macro. (I keep AF on a back button for this reason.)

If you search, you will find a large number of threads about exactly this topic.


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Jul 08, 2012 12:18 |  #10

if you don't have a flash, skip the L and add a flash to the 100mm non L...


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Jul 08, 2012 12:27 as a reply to  @ paddler4's post |  #11

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Jul 08, 2012 12:42 |  #12

I am a big fan of tubes because they give you a lot of flexibility... and I am cheap. That said, I am heading off to Costa Rica in a couple of weeks and am renting a Sigma 150 OS macro lens for the trip. I just don't shoot enough Macro to justify the purchase of a specialty lens... so the tubes work for me.

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Jul 08, 2012 12:48 |  #13

The 100mm f/2.8 and the 100mm f2.8L are not the same.
Not only is weather resistance present, the "L" also has a UD element.
Internal design is also very different. 12 elements in 8 groups for the non-L, and 15 elements in 12 groups, for the "L".
I have both. Their apparent IQ's are so close as to be identical.




  
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Jul 08, 2012 12:57 |  #14

How about the Zeiss 100 MP?




  
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Jul 08, 2012 12:58 |  #15

DreDaze wrote in post #14687703 (external link)
if you don't have a flash, skip the L and add a flash to the 100mm non L...

paddler4 wrote in post #14687689 (external link)
...For handheld, it is a help as long as the subject stands still. Many of my bug shots are done with flash, and for those, I doubt it helps, although I have not tested that directly.

I try to use a flash most of the time, even in bright daylight, for fill if nothing else. I have shakey hands, so the IS helps me get a precise focus (manual); I find it very nice to have even if you're able to use fast shutter speeds.


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