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Sell the 50(1.4) if planning on a 17-55(2.8)?

 
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Jul 11, 2012 10:26 |  #1

Title sums it up really, I have a t3i with kit lens (very poor IQ IMOP) and the 50mm 1.4 ( hit and miss IQ) and have been thinking a lot about the 17-55 2.8. I'm hoping to have more keepers of the kids with the 17-55 (mostly what I shoot). I am pretty new to photography but I have given the 50 a fair try.. mine I believe suffes from an inability to focus properly on anything that is more than 10 feet away ( Up to 10 feet most of the misses have been because of too narrow DOF etc (my own fault)).
So, for those that have or have good knowledge on both should I add the 17-55 to the collection or sell the 50 and then get the other. I'm not rolling in cash but I just don't feel like straying from Canon - too many spotty reviews with Sigma/Tam and too many people that love the Canon. I can live with the dust as I hear it doesn't affect IQ and is easy to clean. Thanks guys.




  
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Jul 11, 2012 10:34 |  #2

If your 50 really can't focus properly on subjects more than ten feet away you should probably just send it in to get it fixed. Nobody is going to want to buy a lens that doesn't work.

That said, the 17-55 is a fine lens. It will certainly produce better quality than the kit lens, and will be more versatile than the 50 so long as you aren't shooting moving subjects (kids) in low light where you will need the extra two stops.




  
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Jul 11, 2012 10:36 |  #3

I have the 17-55 and have had both the Canon and Sigma 50 1.4s. At F/2.8, the primes are very slightly better than the 17-55, but certainly not enough to give up the flexibility and IS of the zoom; that is, unless you need the extra two(ish) stops to freeze motion. Also, the 17-55 has absolutely top notch autofocus; much better than either the Canon or Sigma 50 1.4.


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Jul 11, 2012 10:43 as a reply to  @ raptor3x's post |  #4

Frick no. Completely different animals. :)




  
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Jul 11, 2012 11:02 |  #5

The 50 was sent in for repair last week but I'm not very hopeful that they will get it right after reading on here and other sites about simmilar problems and multiple send backs.. just thought that now would be the time to sell it off. I've read the pro's and con's on the 17-55 and I'm sure I will like it but I just can't decide on selling the 50. I'm thinking I will sell it when it coms back and put that towards the 17-55. After a few months if I miss the 50 I might buy another....




  
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Jul 11, 2012 11:02 |  #6

Honestly, I was not a fan of the 50mm on a APS-C body. I loved using the 17-55. A big reason is that I didn't want a short telephoto lens as my one fast prime in my bag.

When I went full frame with the 5D2, the bright view finder that didn't have tunnel vision made me appreciate primes again. I found I really liked 35mm and 50mm in full frame.

So unless you can cheaply fix our 50/1.4, I'd get rid of it and go for the 17-55. For me, a good prime for APS-C is a 35mm one or maybe the 40mm pancake. 17-55 gives you f/2.8 constant, a decent focal length range, and IS. The 17-55 is also so big, that you might not want to lug around a 50/1.4 prime, especially if you are also carrying a telephoto zoom.


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Jul 11, 2012 11:05 |  #7

Marco - I think I like the sound of that. 17-55 and a pancake. Opinions like this help me out - cheers.




  
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Jul 11, 2012 11:34 |  #8

marcosv wrote in post #14702006 (external link)
Honestly, I was not a fan of the 50mm on a APS-C body. I loved using the 17-55. A big reason is that I didn't want a short telephoto lens as my one fast prime in my bag.

When I went full frame with the 5D2, the bright view finder that didn't have tunnel vision made me appreciate primes again. I found I really liked 35mm and 50mm in full frame.

So unless you can cheaply fix our 50/1.4, I'd get rid of it and go for the 17-55. For me, a good prime for APS-C is a 35mm one or maybe the 40mm pancake. 17-55 gives you f/2.8 constant, a decent focal length range, and IS. The 17-55 is also so big, that you might not want to lug around a 50/1.4 prime, especially if you are also carrying a telephoto zoom.

I felt similarly about 50mm primes on a crop body. I had the 50 f/1.8 then along with the 17-55 f/2.8, and rarely used the prime. I did add a 28mm f/1.8 later, though, and that focal length prime worked very well for me on my 7D.

Once I bought the 5D3, I upgraded the 50mm f/1.8 to the f/1.4 version. I am still not enamored with the lens in comparison with my ring USM lenses, though, as the AF performance is still lacking. I think a 50L will probably be in my future.


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Jul 11, 2012 11:40 as a reply to  @ Scott M's post |  #9

After I got my Tamron 17-50 2.8, my Canon 50 1.4 sat around unused for months- the zoom is just much more versitile- with the IS on the Canon even more so.




  
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Jul 11, 2012 11:42 |  #10

Thanks Scott




  
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Jul 11, 2012 11:46 |  #11

Dark - I'm concerned that I might let mine sit around also. Thanks for the input.




  
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Jul 11, 2012 11:49 |  #12

I love the 50/1.4 on crop body (hardly use it on FF)... And my copy is very sharp at any distance from f2.2 and smaller apertures. Like most of them, it's a little soft wide open, but usable if needed.

The fastest zoom you can buy is f2.8. The point of having a lens capable of two stops larger aperture (f1.4) is not really for low light, that's sort of a secondary thing IMO... It's biggest benefit is it's ability to blur down backgrounds strongly. Great for portraiture.

I don't have 17-55 because I try to stick with lenses I can use on both my crop and FF cameras. Instead I use 24-70/2.8. I wouldn't want to be without some faster primes, though, to complement the zoom. They serve different purposes (I use 20/2.8, 28/1.8, 50/1.4, 85/1.8 and 135/2, in particular... might add 35/1.4, but that would be primarily for FF use).

So, no, I wouldn't give up the 50/1.4.

I don't know what's wrong with your lens. Maybe it's an issue Canon will repair, but I'd also look hard at technique. It's a reasonably fast focusing lens that's plenty sharp if stopped down a little. It's Achille's Heel is weak AF mechanism (and always using/storing the lens hood with it helps protect that... at least mine has been good for 10+ years use, maybe because it's always used with a hood).

An awful lot of "gear faults" have more to do with the user, than the gear. When you get your 50/1.4 back, do some more shots and hopefully it will be great. If it's not, post some shots here and show us what problems you are having, with EXIF intact and any relevant shot info you can provide. Maybe we can help.

Oh, and Canon seems to have addressed the dust and IS failure issues on the 17-55. We see far fewer complaints about these problems here on POTN, so I suspect Canon has made some mid-production changes to correct them.


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Jul 11, 2012 12:02 |  #13

I am eager to see what the repair brings but like I said - not very hopeful! lol! I actually haden't thought about the 40mm pancake and like that idea. I'll take a few raw's with the 50 when it comes back an perhaps some of you in the know can shead some light on it for me. Thanks for all the great inputs guys.




  
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Jul 11, 2012 12:04 |  #14

Not the same type/name of lenses but when I picked up the Tamron 17-50f2.8, I found myself wanting to sell the 50f1.8 but at times, I found the f1.8 a bit more useful in low light.

Not the same as Canon 17-55 or Canon 50f1.4 but same focal lengths and close f-stop.


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Jul 12, 2012 11:58 |  #15

I think that having a fast prime is essential! focal length of your choice.


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