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Jul 12, 2012 16:45 |  #16

Really, really great shots, James.

I'm not really overpowering the sun because my model is in the shade, but here is a shot with an Elinchrom Ranger 1100w/s with a 27" BD and gold reflector [SOOC]:

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Jul 12, 2012 16:51 as a reply to  @ post 14708122 |  #17

Im using vagabond Minis. Recycle times with 1600's is about 2-3 seconds. Each light has a dedicated vagabond mini. Gets me close to 400 pops at full power. Im also triggering with pocket wizard flex TT5 and Mini TT1. Allows yo to get past gate speed. This was shot on the MKIV at 1/250. But i have gone to 1/640-- 1/1000 with group shots many times. The faster the shutter, the more i have to turn up the lights however or bring them closer. Im tickled with this set up. could only dream about this 5 yrs ago. speedlights are only used for inside work these days.


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Jul 12, 2012 19:26 |  #18

Hot Bob wrote in post #14708122 (external link)
Yup, in my case 10-15 feet from subject to light and I'm trying to underexpose ambient by two stops while properly exposing subject. I actually think the tip about pushing the shutter speed faster than sync is a good one that may be able to work in my case. If the ambient is underexposed by two stops and I can keep the strobe from lighting up the foreground, the band may not even be noticable.

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If the foreground needs lit, just turn the camera upside down so the 2nd shutter curtain will be in the sky, in the ambient only portion of the exposure.

If you need faster recycle times or need to make the most of your watt seconds, try playing with a soft silver and extreme silver PLM.
They're going to put out more than a softbox.




  
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Jul 12, 2012 20:05 |  #19

i have been reading about some wireless trigger / strobe combos that have hyper sync (not hss) and allow up to 1/8000 exposures

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you can knock the ambient down with SS and let the flash do its thing with large apertures


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Jul 13, 2012 08:09 |  #20

redrocket wrote in post #14708950 (external link)
i have been reading about some wireless trigger / strobe combos that have hyper sync (not hss) and allow up to 1/8000 exposures

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https://photography-on-the.net …138668&highligh​t=1%2F8000

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1091641

you can knock the ambient down with SS and let the flash do its thing with large apertures

This was very interesting reading and subsequent research. Anyone know if the Flex TT5 and AC9 combo can do hyper sync with the PCB lineup? Hyper sync on a 1200w/s White Lightning could be a very versatile setup.

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Jul 14, 2012 17:29 |  #21

Hot Bob wrote in post #14708122 (external link)
Yup, in my case 10-15 feet from subject to light and I'm trying to underexpose ambient by two stops while properly exposing subject.

...The most cost effective setup I've come up with is a White Lightning X3200 powered by a Vagabond Lithium when remote. At full power, the recycle time will be quite long at 7 seconds but it seems to be doable, at least on paper.

There's a 2000w/s Hensel Integra up on Ebay right now but, I don't know how I would power that monster.

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Buff output specs on the web site state that a single Einstein (640 w-s true) at 10' with Buff foldable softbox outputs light suitable for ISO 100 Guide Number 102. If you used two Einsteins, that would result in GN144. Sunny 16 predicts sun exposure of 1/100 f/16 or 1/200 f/11. So the two Einstein combination results in overpowering the sun by only +1EV at 10'...or about dead even (+0EV) at 15'

Buff output specs on the web site state that a single WL X3200 (1320 w-s true) at 10' with Buff foldable softbox outputs light suitable for ISO 100 Guide Number 144. If you used two X3200, that would result in GN205. Sunny 16 predicts sun exposure of 1/100 f/16 or 1/200 f/11. So the two X3200 combination results in overpowering the sun by only @1EV at 10'...or about dead even (+1EV) at 15'


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As you can tell, its wasnt most brightest day but still needed strobe.

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Jul 22, 2012 12:32 |  #23

Just took this yesterday with my Einsteins. Love, love, love that setup! Besides a bit of vibrance, dust removal, and color temp change, these are almost direct out of camera.

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