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Jul 20, 2012 20:29 |  #16

jimewall wrote in post #14746484 (external link)
As would the use of flash help to stop the movement of an active child. Actually there is a good chance even with f/2.8 you will need flash to not get blurred images of a kid being a kid inside. Learn to move flash off camera, and bounce (or other) method to diffuse the light from the flash. Using the flash also means you could get away with the f/4 - but I too like the idea of an f/2.8.

When it comes to impromptu shots of family..especially kids, you don't always have time to run grab the flash, put it on, and set it up. ;)


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Jul 20, 2012 20:58 |  #17

I considered 17-55 f/2.8, 24-70 f/2.8 and the 24-105 f/4.0 when shopping for an indoor/general purpose lens. I would have been terribly crippled if not getting the 24-105. The focal length is great for indoors and outside when something longer (70-200mm) is not needed.

My best "portrait" photo EVER was with the 24-105 while outside and following a 2 yr. old playing on a patio. My avatar is an 18 mo. old taken last Christmas over a dinner table at 105mm and it still needed cropping.

I love the 24-105 on my 50D. It pairs well with a 70-200mm lens, overlap of focal lengths is a very good thing.

I have several really good lenses and only the Tokina cost me less than the 24-105 (extenders not considered.) It is the one I would keep if forced to have only one lens.


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Jul 20, 2012 21:10 |  #18

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gives you eq FOV of 40-170mm on a crop. Awesome range for portraits. I love mine.


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Jul 20, 2012 22:24 |  #19

1Tanker wrote in post #14747060 (external link)
When it comes to impromptu shots of family..especially kids, you don't always have time to run grab the flash, put it on, and set it up. ;)

While sort of true, that is a mostly irrelevant statement.

If the lens one uses is not fast enough to take a picture of an active child (and the child is one of your main subjects), you grab the flash (or it is already set and ready). If not expect a good number of blurred images. Otherwise set the camera's ISO real high and have noisy images.

For me, my camera and flash are right next to each other, if needed I can grab both at almost the same time. I would think this is similar for most people, especially if they shoot where flash is often needed.

Then, if someone keeps there camera out for a quick shot, they should know the lighting in their house, and if it typically requires flash with the lens they use. If it does, then the flash should be on the camera or on a bracket with flash.

If one is out somewhere with the kids, then one will quickly decide if flash is needed or not.

Impromptu shots are not the typical family shots. They happen, but it is probably not the main reason people get (or should get) a general lens. In some houses (like my house) f/2.8 is not enough most of the time without flash. If flash is used, then an f/4 would work too (but if you look back I still agreed with getting an f/2.8).

I'm just trying to help the OP by pointing out f/2.8 isn't always enough without flash.


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Jul 20, 2012 22:30 |  #20

jimewall wrote in post #14747438 (external link)
I'm just trying to help the OP by pointing out f/2.8 isn't always enough without flash.


And neither is f/1.2

I'm totally with you.

Keep your speedlight at hand, learn how to use it.

Besides, you need some DOF to get enough of the subject in focus.


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Jul 21, 2012 00:08 |  #21

If you plan on just staying indoors, the 17-55 will work great.
If you think that sometime you may get interested in working outdoors, the 24-105 needs consideration.




  
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Jul 21, 2012 00:39 |  #22

I've been very happy with my 24-105 lens for portraits and walk around on my 7D. I also like that it's weather sealed since I don't hide from the rain. A lot will come down to if you want to upgrade to a FF sensor down the road and if you need/want weather sealing. Other than that it's focal length. Family photo's are staged/posed so the IS will help you come close to a f/2.8 given the models don't move.


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Jul 21, 2012 01:45 |  #23

i'd go 24-105mm...indoors f2.8 might not be fast enough to stop motion for kids indoors anyways...i can't imagine that many more portraits of the kids that you'd take between 17-23mm...the extra length of the 24-105L would be more beneficial in my opinion


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Jul 21, 2012 04:18 |  #24

Got the 17-55 and the 24-105 on 7D.
If you are saying Family and mean max of three, than take the 24-105, and if it is not fast enough get an external flash. If you do not miss the wide angle on the 15-85 that is my advise.




  
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Jul 21, 2012 09:52 |  #25

I have the 24-105L on my 60D. It will work indoors during the day, when there is enough light inside.
At night, I use a fast prime. A zoom at f2.8 will require flash in my home, and then the 18-55IS will work as well.
When I use flash, all that matters is focal length, and the kit 18-55IS will work pretty well. However, I tend to want to use f2 when lighting gets low enough.




  
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Jul 21, 2012 10:39 as a reply to  @ post 14746888 |  #26

I one day will get the 17-55 because sometimes when i shoot inside i miss the wider and faster...but to tell you the truth, since i got the 24-105 which replaced my 28-75 as my family/general walkaround (af is sooo much better as well as colors and contrast imho) it is rare thtat it leaves my 7d. I like doing tighter shots of family and fewer group shots so the FL range works for me. I love the quality and the versatility.

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Jul 21, 2012 11:17 |  #27

I love the focal range of the 24-105 on crop as I sit at the longer ranges quite often. 17-50 (55's) just seem to short to me way to often. In your situation and shooting style I would go with the 24-105L. Love this lens!


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Thanks everyone for the comments. I hope the IQ is there also. Haven't heard anyone rave about the IQ.


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Jul 21, 2012 20:54 |  #29

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Thanks everyone for the comments. I hope the IQ is there also. Haven't heard anyone rave about the IQ.

no worries on the IQ. https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1209203




  
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Jul 21, 2012 20:57 |  #30

walmartmartyr wrote in post #14750279 (external link)
Thanks everyone for the comments. I hope the IQ is there also. Haven't heard anyone rave about the IQ.

Love the IQ!:D


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