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Jul 20, 2012 19:03 |  #61

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Sorry, this camera cannot exist as pictured so it is probably fake.

The mount appears to be EF for the EOS system, and the camera itself is marked 'EOS'. But then the register distance from the mount ring to the sensor is nowhere near deep enough, so there is not a single EF or EF-S lens that will be able to focus on this camera. I know this lens says 'EF-M' but I kind of doubt Canon would launch a new lens line that was so easily confused with the existing EOS system. I bet they would work to make it more clearly different.

So to me this is almost certainly bogus. Any camera with the dimensions of this one will not be 'EOS' and will not have an EF lens mount. It would have to be a totally new lens system. EF and EF-S lenses would only mount with an adapter that provides the necessary depth.

EOS stands for "Electro-Optical System". It doesn't stand for "44mm flange distance". So there is no reason why this couldn't be an EOS camera.

They have also already shown a willingness to introduce a new EF system that is not backwards compatible with the existing one, EF-S. So for them to make another one, EF-M, is not really surprising at all.

Besides, a simple adapter would let both EF, and EF-S lenses work on this system. The real concerns will be people buying EF-M lenses and having them not work on EF-S and EF systems. But that is the case already with EF-S lenses on EF, so again, willingness to do so already a given.

The other concern is the AF system, as contrast detect systems and phase detect are very different, and lenses optimized for phase detect may not AF too well on a contrast only system. (An issue the 4/3rds m4/3rds systems ran into with a few lenses). But again, a minor concern when introducing a new system like this.


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Jul 20, 2012 19:06 |  #62

There's also talk of the sensor being identical to that of the 650D/T4i, which is a hybrid contrast/phase-detect system, similar to that of the Nikon 1.


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Jul 20, 2012 21:09 |  #63

dadgummit wrote in post #14746714 (external link)
Well I guess that almost proves it is a 1.6x sensor. The 18-55 lens only makes sense on that sensor. If it was a 1.85x it would be a 33.5-101mm equivalent.

Excellent. That makes the 22mm lens a 35mm equivalent lens. Now all we need to know is price.




  
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Jul 21, 2012 04:14 |  #64

Note the 52mm filter thread on the 18-55. That is small. I'm glad it has a hotshoe; that way I can use it with strobes. I just hope it has an electronic shutter (doubt it) for unlimited x-sync.


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Jul 21, 2012 04:41 |  #65

What if it uses the same bayonet as EF mount, wouldn't simple extension tube with necessary contacts enable mounting all existing EF/EF-S lenses giving them correct register distance?


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Jul 21, 2012 08:46 |  #66

I wonder what this will cost? If it is priced in line with the Rebels maybe I'll sell my 30D and get this one (as long as it does in fact use EF/Ef-S lenses).


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Jul 21, 2012 08:53 |  #67

axl_kollar wrote in post #14748126 (external link)
What if it uses the same bayonet as EF mount, wouldn't simple extension tube with necessary contacts enable mounting all existing EF/EF-S lenses giving them correct register distance?

It doesn't use the same mount as EF or EF-S.

By my rough calculations the EF-M lens mount would be about 15% smaller.

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Jul 21, 2012 09:03 |  #68

I just wish that all these camera manufacturers would stop inventing and selling all this crap that I really, really want.

But on a personal growth note: I've had my current camera body for almost two years. That's the longest I've gone without selling something for the newest shiny object.

That said, if this new camera takes EF and EF-s lenses, that would be a real winner.


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Jul 21, 2012 09:09 |  #69

The NEX 7 still seems to be the mirror-less for the real photographer. Why aren't there any control dials and built-in EVF on this Canon? I would have thought that Canon came out with a true winner and blow the competition out of the water but if these images are the real thing then Canon screwed up big time.




  
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Jul 21, 2012 09:20 |  #70

5Dmaniac wrote in post #14748553 (external link)
The NEX 7 still seems to be the mirror-less for the real photographer. Why aren't there any control dials and built-in EVF on this Canon? I would have thought that Canon came out with a true winner and blow the competition out of the water but if these images are the real thing then Canon screwed up big time.

This is just one leaked camera. Probably the first of many to come. There could even be other more advanced versions released on the same day or very soon after.


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Jul 21, 2012 10:03 |  #71

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Like what Mike said....

5Dmaniac wrote in post #14748553 (external link)
The NEX 7 still seems to be the mirror-less for the real photographer. Why aren't there any control dials and built-in EVF on this Canon? I would have thought that Canon came out with a true winner and blow the competition out of the water but if these images are the real thing then Canon screwed up big time.

....and, my initial contacts said Canon were planning on releasing a consumer body in the summer (which is where we're at now), followed quite soon by a prosumer body.

So, I'm keen to play with this initial version, and keep putting cash into my piggy-bank, either for the prosumer version, or if that takes too long, a Sigma 85 f/1.4, because I want one of those, too!
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Jul 21, 2012 10:23 |  #72

As long as it's not Nikon V1/J1 sensor size (garbage).


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Jul 21, 2012 11:37 |  #73

I'm really hoping this is a fake. No EVF?

Please be a fake.


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Jul 21, 2012 12:17 |  #74

msowsun wrote in post #14748579 (external link)
This is just one leaked camera. Probably the first of many to come. There could even be other more advanced versions released on the same day or very soon after.

I hope so.

5Dmaniac wrote in post #14748553 (external link)
The NEX 7 still seems to be the mirror-less for the real photographer. Why aren't there any control dials and built-in EVF on this Canon? I would have thought that Canon came out with a true winner and blow the competition out of the water but if these images are the real thing then Canon screwed up big time.

Bear in mind that the general direction is to start at the bottom and then move up. The more something costs, the smaller the market for it is. Of course, they could be going with the consumer model first to make sure it's out in time to get on peoples Christmas shopping lists. ;)

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I'm really hoping this is a fake. No EVF?

Please be a fake.

Patience grasshopper. Not every camera out there is designed to appease enthusiasts, just like there are a lot of popular cars out there that weren't made to appease car enthusiasts, yet they sell pretty well.


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Jul 21, 2012 13:24 |  #75

Scatterbrained wrote in post #14749042 (external link)
Patience grasshopper. Not every camera out there is designed to appease enthusiasts, just like there are a lot of popular cars out there that weren't made to appease car enthusiasts, yet they sell pretty well.

+1

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As long as it's not Nikon V1/J1 sensor size (garbage).

The new zoom lens coming with this is a redesigned 18-55, that practically assures the sensor is APS-C size, and is likely identical to the hybrid autofocus sensor that's in the T4i.


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