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Jul 24, 2012 08:27 |  #301

Hogloff wrote in post #14761457 (external link)
Then use your rebel that can be picked up for less than $400 and deliver better results. $800 for this P&S plus another $200 for the adapter makes this camera more expensive than just about any Canon DSLR.

So you're saying buy a 5Dc instead and wait for the second or third iteration of this when they actually get it "right"?
It's an option I guess...


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Jul 24, 2012 10:32 |  #302

I'll keep my OM-D thanks


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Jul 24, 2012 10:40 as a reply to  @ andrikos's post |  #303

Hogloff wrote in post #14761457 (external link)
Then use your rebel that can be picked up for less than $400 and deliver better results. $800 for this P&S plus another $200 for the adapter makes this camera more expensive than just about any Canon DSLR.

What is this magical sub-$400 DSLR that will take better pictures (than this camera that hasn't even been reviewed, let alone shot with by anyone here)?


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Jul 24, 2012 10:42 |  #304

Hogloff wrote in post #14761457 (external link)
Then use your rebel that can be picked up for less than $400 and deliver better results. $800 for this P&S plus another $200 for the adapter makes this camera more expensive than just about any Canon DSLR.



How do you know it delivers better results? Assuming...


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Jul 24, 2012 10:49 |  #305
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dinanm3atl wrote in post #14762226 (external link)
How do you know it delivers better results? Assuming...

Same sensors in the cameras. Easier to focus and compose with the Rebels. Easier to use with your EF-S lenses. Most likely faster focus, more responsive with the Rebels.

Used DSLR's with very low millage are a dime a dozen right now. Easily get one for $400 and would work just fine as a backup camera. That is less than 1/2 the price of this new P&S.




  
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Jul 24, 2012 10:56 |  #306

Hogloff wrote in post #14762259 (external link)
Same sensors in the cameras. Easier to focus and compose with the Rebels. Easier to use with your EF-S lenses. Most likely faster focus, more responsive with the Rebels.

Used DSLR's with very low millage are a dime a dozen right now. Easily get one for $400 and would work just fine as a backup camera. That is less than 1/2 the price of this new P&S.

Same sensor as which DSLR again?


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Jul 24, 2012 11:00 |  #307

I have no idea why people go crazy about the idea of using this with their EF lenses, kind of defeats the purpose of the small, portable, and convenient package.


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Jul 24, 2012 11:06 |  #308

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I have no idea why people go crazy about the idea of using this with their EF lenses, kind of defeats the purpose of the small, portable, and convenient package.

Yea I agree but its a nice option to have for certain lenses, I don't know if I would use it with a 70-200 or something like that.

I think most people who would want a camera like this would be more likely to get the one that gives them the option to attach lenses they currently own, especially with the 40mm pancake. The 22 and 40 would make a great tiny setup.


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Jul 24, 2012 11:11 |  #309

It is not easier to compose. You are using your 'comfort zone' of looking through a viewfinder and seemingly unwilling to change attitude to form your opinion. How is holding up a camera, touching a screen to where you want to focus and clicking the shutter... hard to compose? Has no one taken a cell phone picture? It's quite easy.

I understand it is different but with the 'same sensor' as you say and newer electronics/programmin​g it sohuld be producing equal, if not better, results.


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Jul 24, 2012 11:26 |  #310

A 40D obviously!!

kumicho wrote in post #14762220 (external link)
What is this magical sub-$400 DSLR that will take better pictures (than this camera that hasn't even been reviewed, let alone shot with by anyone here)?


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Jul 24, 2012 11:30 |  #311
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dinanm3atl wrote in post #14762367 (external link)
It is not easier to compose. You are using your 'comfort zone' of looking through a viewfinder and seemingly unwilling to change attitude to form your opinion. How is holding up a camera, touching a screen to where you want to focus and clicking the shutter... hard to compose? Has no one taken a cell phone picture? It's quite easy.

I understand it is different but with the 'same sensor' as you say and newer electronics/programmin​g it sohuld be producing equal, if not better, results.

I do a lot of street shooting where I need to track the subject and get the shot at the right split second. I have an iPhone and I cannot do that with any success. I really don't see this P&S being any better. You'll miss shots plain and simple as you fiddle around with the touch screen and try to compose on and LCD when the sun is shining. Tell me I am wrong here.




  
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Jul 24, 2012 11:32 |  #312
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dinanm3atl wrote in post #14762367 (external link)
It is not easier to compose. You are using your 'comfort zone' of looking through a viewfinder and seemingly unwilling to change attitude to form your opinion. How is holding up a camera, touching a screen to where you want to focus and clicking the shutter... hard to compose? Has no one taken a cell phone picture? It's quite easy.

I understand it is different but with the 'same sensor' as you say and newer electronics/programmin​g it sohuld be producing equal, if not better, results.

Also, you would have to hold this camera with one hand and use the other hand to operate the touch screen. How steady can you hold the camera with an EF lens on it with one hand. Good luck with that.




  
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Jul 24, 2012 11:32 |  #313

The cheapest camera with this sensor is the T2i and it's about $600. The EOS M comes with an f2 prime, so we'll need to add at least $120 for the Nifty fifty to catch up. That's $720 vs $800 and likely a worse lens with worse AF.


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Jul 24, 2012 11:40 |  #314
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tkbslc wrote in post #14762478 (external link)
The cheapest camera with this sensor is the T2i and it's about $600. The EOS M comes with an f2 prime, so we'll need to add at least $120 for the Nifty fifty to catch up. That's $720 vs $800 and likely a worse lens with worse AF.

I actually have a T2i ( my 2nd ) that I picked up for $400 barely used. I am converting it to IR...but for a backup camera, it would do just nicely.

Just don't see the need to spend $1000 for this P&S to act as your backup when I can get a very good functional camera for $400 as a backup. I can tell you this much, the T2i will handle my 70-200 in a backup role much better than the P&S.




  
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Jul 24, 2012 11:41 |  #315

Hogloff wrote in post #14762468 (external link)
I do a lot of street shooting where I need to track the subject and get the shot at the right split second. I have an iPhone and I cannot do that with any success. I really don't see this P&S being any better. You'll miss shots plain and simple as you fiddle around with the touch screen and try to compose on and LCD when the sun is shining. Tell me I am wrong here.

You are wrong here.

Not about the fact that it is probably not a good fit for your specific style of shooting. It sounds like it won't be a good fit for that any more than it'd be a good fit for shooting fast moving sports or birds in flight.

You are wrong because most people don't have your specific needs and this camera will function just fine in those cases. If the camera doesn't do what you need them simply don't by one. But saying that nobody else should buy one because it doesn't meet your needs is just lame.


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