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Airshow Settings for ISO / Aperature on 600D?

 
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Jul 24, 2012 10:08 |  #1

Hi all...I'm enjoying my new 600D at EAA AirVenture. Lighting was phenomenal yesterday and pics looked good. I had ISO set at 200. When clouds came in I left it at 200 and switched to "cloudy". The aircraft looked too dark...heartbreaking when the P-38 came out. Any quick tips? I'm still pretty new with settings and DSLR cameras. Thanks! Scott




  
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Jul 24, 2012 10:14 |  #2

When you changed your settings to cloudy, did you change your white balance, or did you change your mode dial to a cloudy setting? For air shows, you may want to consider using Tv, and locking in a minimum shutter speed, and let the aperture float a bit. Set ISO accordingly, or even maybe use auto-ISO, I would have bumped up ISO to 400 or even higher if warranted. Change your metering to spot, and EC to +2/3 as a starting point.

The best thing for these shows would be to use manual though, this way you can set up the exposure for the planes and not let the skies fool the camera's metering into underexposing for the planes.

This was at ISO 800.

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Jul 24, 2012 10:20 |  #3

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Change your metering to spot, and EC to +2/3 as a starting point.

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Jul 24, 2012 10:32 |  #4

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Any quick tips?

Shoot RAW??


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Jul 24, 2012 10:38 |  #5

Thanks! My white balance was set to cloudy..Should I leave it onto auto ? I changed metering to spot and and upped the EC. Its overcast in Oshkosh today, so I'll give it a shot. I love this camera, I took over 1200 photos yesterday!




  
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Jul 24, 2012 10:42 |  #6

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Thanks! My white balance was set to cloudy..Should I leave it onto auto ?

Personally I leave it on auto, and shoot in RAW format so you can change in post if needed.


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Jul 24, 2012 10:48 as a reply to  @ CobraGT40's post |  #7

As far as exposure settings: I've metered off buildings or other backgrounds that are in the same direction you'll be shooting, with as little sky as possible, then used that setting in manual. The sky will be blown out, but the aircraft should be good.


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Jul 24, 2012 11:24 |  #8

CobraGT40 wrote in post #14762068 (external link)
Hi all...I'm enjoying my new 600D at EAA AirVenture. Lighting was phenomenal yesterday and pics looked good. I had ISO set at 200. When clouds came in I left it at 200 and switched to "cloudy". The aircraft looked too dark...heartbreaking when the P-38 came out. Any quick tips? I'm still pretty new with settings and DSLR cameras. Thanks! Scott

Air show images where the camera did most of the exposure and white balance work. The main settings are shutter speeds: fast for jets, slow for props, and some exposure compensation. Everything else is left in automatic, including auto ISO. Of course, this depends on light.

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Focal Length: 313.0mm
Aperture: f/8.0
Exposure Time: 0.0020 s (1/500)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: +0.33 EV
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: program (Auto)
White Balance: Auto

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Focal Length: 439.0mm
Aperture: f/7.1
Exposure Time: 0.0003 s (1/3200)
ISO equiv: 800
Exposure Bias: +1.00 EV
Metering Mode: Partial
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto

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Focal Length: 403.0mm
Aperture: f/11.0
Exposure Time: 0.0040 s (1/250)
ISO equiv: 100
Exposure Bias: +0.33 EV
Metering Mode: Partial
Exposure: shutter priority (semi-auto)
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB



  
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Jul 24, 2012 11:47 |  #9

nice photos. it seems like you guys are using super tele lenses. Is it possible to get these shots, say, with my 70-300L? or do i need it to be longer?


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Jul 24, 2012 11:55 |  #10

gratchie wrote in post #14762547 (external link)
nice photos. it seems like you guys are using super tele lenses. Is it possible to get these shots, say, with my 70-300L? or do i need it to be longer?

He has a Sigma 150-500.

I was at the same airshow as DC Fan with my 55-250 (before I got my 70-300L), and it was plenty long, in several cases I had to pull back, but then again the Indianapolis Air Show is VERY close to the runway and flight line, the aircraft were taxiing about 100 feet or so from us.


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Jul 24, 2012 12:10 |  #11

Thanks for the advice guys...I was keeping shutter speed around 250 for all...I'll speed it up for the jets. I'm using a 70-300Lgood for the airshow, 18-55mm for static displays. I noticed the coloring in my pics is kinda dull...What settings should I use for aircraft stills? Thanks! Scott ... p.s. great pics!




  
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Jul 24, 2012 12:37 |  #12

CobraGT40 wrote in post #14762639 (external link)
Thanks for the advice guys...I was keeping shutter speed around 250 for all...I'll speed it up for the jets. I'm using a 70-300Lgood for the airshow, 18-55mm for static displays. I noticed the coloring in my pics is kinda dull...What settings should I use for aircraft stills? Thanks! Scott ... p.s. great pics!

In flight or static? Do you have your hood on the 70-300L?

Part of that depends greatly on the type of light you have to work with. If it is overcast it's going to be harder to get colors that really pop, however a quick spin in the right post processing can bring those back to life.


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Jul 24, 2012 12:43 |  #13

CobraGT40 wrote in post #14762639 (external link)
Thanks for the advice guys...I was keeping shutter speed around 250 for all...I'll speed it up for the jets. I'm using a 70-300Lgood for the airshow, 18-55mm for static displays. I noticed the coloring in my pics is kinda dull...What settings should I use for aircraft stills? Thanks! Scott ... p.s. great pics!

You can play with your picture styles to get saturated images, but if you shoot in raw, you can fix up exposure to an extent, then also white balance and color, one of the reasons to shoot raw. 1/250th isn't even fast enough for sporting events, so definitely bump your shutter speeds up, and that will mean higher ISOs.

Use histograms to determine whether your exposures are good, not the LCD. There is one trick I use if I do use the LCD to see if I have exposed to the right, and that is to turn the LCD brightness down a couple of notches. If the images still look bright on the screen, then chances are the histograms are to the right.


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Jul 24, 2012 14:25 |  #14

CobraGT40 wrote in post #14762639 (external link)
Thanks for the advice guys...I was keeping shutter speed around 250 for all...I'll speed it up for the jets. I'm using a 70-300Lgood for the airshow, 18-55mm for static displays. I noticed the coloring in my pics is kinda dull...What settings should I use for aircraft stills? Thanks! Scott ... p.s. great pics!

Shutter speed pegged at 250 for jets seems like a very bad choice to me also. I would likely keep it in Av Mode. Set your ISO to 400-800 on a cloudy day and a probably have the aperture set at f/6.3 or higher. You will want to have shutter speeds of 1/500 or greater to stop motion.


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Jul 24, 2012 14:41 |  #15

I've set aperture at 8.0 and shutter speed at 1000, ISO at 800...pictures don't seem very crisp when I zoom in...




  
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