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Looking for a good wide angle zoom. Recommendations I'm very confused.

 
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Jul 27, 2012 21:34 |  #1

Hey guys, I have a 70-300L IS which I'm very happy with. I'm now looking to replace my basic 18-55 kit lens for landscape/portrait zoom lens. I would like "IS" as I must say it's awsome. I am thinking about the 15-85mm IS as the reviews seem quite good or should I be looking at something else??? Maybe Sigma or Tamron...
I have read good things about the 17-55 F2.8 but technology has changed since this lens was introduced.
Opinions please......


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Jul 27, 2012 21:43 |  #2

Yes...15-85 would pair up sweetly, with your 70-300! It's an excellent lens.


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Jul 27, 2012 21:45 |  #3

15-85 if you want more range, sigma 17-50 if you want faster aperture, both of these are just as good in terms of IQ as the canon 17-55, and are cheaper.

Alternative, there's the sigma 17-70 OS if you want a nice compromise between reach and aperture, which is what I went for, and I'm very happy with it.


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Jul 27, 2012 22:16 as a reply to  @ Sirrith's post |  #4

Another vote for the 15-85mm here... Awesome range and extremely sharp!




  
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Jul 27, 2012 22:58 |  #5

15-85, I want one, my mother has one and I love it
I have a 10-22 and a 17-50f2.8, I would sell them both and get a 15-85 and have some cash if I couldn't already use my mothers one


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Jul 27, 2012 23:09 |  #6

I HIGHLY recommend the 17-55 but the 15-85 would be good for less money. The 17-55 is an "L" quality lens with constant F/2.8 AND IS. No other lens can beat it for the range. The 17-40 comes close but it's F/4 and has no IS. The 16-35 is another....but again....no IS but is F/2.8.

Bottom line....if you have the money get a 17-55. If not get the 15-85. That's my vote. Sigma and Tamron are worth looking into but I hate the opposite zooming direction and the non Canon build.


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Jul 28, 2012 09:17 as a reply to  @ nate42nd's post |  #7

Thanks to everyone!
I will be looking for one of those 2 lenses.


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Jul 28, 2012 11:41 |  #8

The 15-85 is a superb lens and very sharp. I highly recommend it. I also have the Canon 70-300 IS (non-L), and the two go very well together.


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Jul 28, 2012 13:49 |  #9

technology has been changed but the optical concept hasn't changed for the last 150 yrs. I heard many good things about the lens. 15-85 is a newer lens than 17-55 and it uses pretty much the same coating as L lens but it's variable aperture and slower. If you use crop sensor, you might want to look into Tokina 11-16 f/2.8.


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Jul 28, 2012 14:07 |  #10

nate42nd wrote in post #14780086 (external link)
That's my vote. Sigma and Tamron are worth looking into but I hate the opposite zooming direction and the non Canon build.

The opposite zoom and focus are reasons I choose against the Tamron, but the Sigma 17-50 zooms and focuses the Canon way.


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Jul 28, 2012 15:28 |  #11

15-85mm is nice, quality control seems iffy, b ut maybe those issues are resolved.

If you don't need 15mm, check out the Sigma 17-50mm. The Canon 17-55mm is absolutely a solid bet, too.

Alternatively, you could look into something like the Canon 10-22mm and then get, say, the 40mm 2.8 for when you need the middle covered...

Or get one of the wides like the Canon 10-22 or Sigma 10-20 or 8-16, etc, and then get the kit 18-55mm IS (~$100). It's image quality is excellent, it's just not built as well and is slower.


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Jul 28, 2012 17:45 |  #12

Rebelxsi wrote in post #14779807 (external link)
I have read good things about the 17-55 F2.8 but technology has changed since this lens was introduced.
Opinions please......

Why does it matter if technology has changed? Canon has done undocumented upgrades to the lens too. some of the early issues with it no longer apply. There has never been any question about the glass. It's easily one of Canon's best lenses for a crop body. I've been using it for a year and wouldn't be caught without it.


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Jul 28, 2012 18:45 |  #13

Rebelxsi wrote in post #14779807 (external link)
I have read good things about the 17-55 F2.8 but technology has changed since this lens was introduced.

maximus_73 wrote in post #14781992 (external link)
technology has been changed but the optical concept hasn't changed for the last 150 yrs.

Well, optical formulae do get better with time -- just take a look at the 70-200/2.8 Mk I vs II or the 24L Mk I vs II, etc.

However, the 17-55 optical formula is not "old" at all.

Heck, the 100-400L optical formula is at least 16 years old (it came out in 1996, but who knows how long Canon has been hiding the formula in its vault), and still offers similar or better IQ than Tamron and Sigma "equivalents" which came out many years later.

You can check the lens reviews yourself, but I believe the 17-55 still has better IQ than the Sigma and Tamron counterparts.

Other technologies like IS do get better with time, but over the last 20 years IS has only improved by 1-2 stops (the very first IS lens -- the original 75-300IS -- had two-stop IS, while lenses which came out in the last 1-2 years still cannot do more than 3-4 stops in real-life use). USM really has not improved since it first came out.

In short, the 17-55 is still as much a kick-ass lens today as the day it was first announced.

nate42nd wrote in post #14780086 (external link)
I HIGHLY recommend the 17-55 but the 15-85 would be good for less money. The 17-55 is an "L" quality lens with constant F/2.8 AND IS. No other lens can beat it for the range.


Can't agree more.

I have both the 17-55 and the 15-85, and I can tell you the 17-55 gets used 10x more often than the 15-85, mainly because the 15-85 is simply too slow for indoor/low-light use.

At the wide-end, the 15-85 is only 2/3 stop slower, but at 55, the 15-85 is 2 full stops slower than the 17-55. (Obviously, this has significant implication on DOF as well.)

The angle-of-view difference between 15 and 17 is definitely noticeable, but not enough to be the deciding factor. On the long end, 85 does give a bit more reach than 55, but you already have the 70-300L, so it's a non-factor (don't worry about the 55-70 gap).

woos wrote in post #14782288 (external link)
Alternatively, you could look into something like the Canon 10-22mm and then get, say, the 40mm 2.8 for when you need the middle covered...

Some people like the "UWA + normal prime + telephoto" combo, but unless you shoot mainly at the extreme FLs (i.e. not much in the middle ground), you better get ready to changing lenses very frequently.

I have the 10-22, and I find myself changing lenses a lot even when I pair the 10-22 with either 15-85 or 17-55.

nate42nd wrote in post #14780086 (external link)
Bottom line....if you have the money get a 17-55. If not get the 15-85. That's my vote.

Well put.

I guess Nate summed it up pretty well.


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Jul 28, 2012 19:12 |  #14

If you ever anticipate going full-frame, just bite the bullet and get the 16-35 f2.8 II lens. Yrs ago, i went thru the painful process of selling my EF-S lenses.


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Jul 28, 2012 19:20 |  #15

Tokina 11-16. =D


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