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GKPE 8, Yet more NZ ramblings from some flightless Kiwis.

 
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Jul 28, 2012 01:06 |  #4111

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Last time I went down this path (mf before D800 was known) I got flamed :rolleyes:

Lets see what happens with you.

Will you be using yours to photograph A0 maps all day?


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Jul 28, 2012 01:43 |  #4112

manipula wrote in post #14780338 (external link)
Will you be using yours to photograph A0 maps all day?

Does it matter what its used for Landscapes or maps?
Result is the same ............. "The biggest appeal though, all that resolution."

My mistake was I mentioned going "MF"

I do look foward to your thoughts on the D800 ..... a couple of seascapes would be of intrest to me and your findings


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Jul 28, 2012 01:52 |  #4113

D800/e is an interesting option. I had a long hard think about it.

The downsides (poor tse's, iffy wide angle choices, yes including the 14-24, poor live view) over rode the upsides - resolution and dynamic range.

Resolution you can exploit in limited situations , with the right lens, with the right aperture. And you can always work round it, stitch for more.

Dynamic range is a big draw, thats always trouble, but you can take steps to work round that (filters, hdr , blending).

Hopefully canon can get their act together on the read noise front and we dont have to even consider it.. :D


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Jul 28, 2012 02:06 as a reply to  @ RobDickinson's post |  #4114

Canon will come to the party but sometimes it pays to let someone else lead first and make the mistakes or show weaknesses. They will be watching the D800 closely and what photographers are saying.

One of canon sucesses had been 5D series.

Im looking at treating myself some reverse grads have trouble in post processing getting the result I want.
Been looking at 500 pix today. Is it me or do most landscapes/seascapes seem over saturated?


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Jul 28, 2012 02:25 |  #4115

I never understood the need jump ship so quickly when a new camera comes on to the market.

You should upgrade you gear when it becomes a barrier in your own style of photography


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Jul 28, 2012 02:31 |  #4116

weka2000 wrote in post #14780485 (external link)
Im looking at treating myself some reverse grads have trouble in post processing getting the result I want.
Been looking at 500 pix today. Is it me or do most landscapes/seascapes seem over saturated?

Reverse grads? what size.singh-ray do some great 100mm reverse grads.

As for saturation, thats the current big style i guess.


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Jul 28, 2012 05:25 as a reply to  @ RobDickinson's post |  #4117

manipula wrote in post #14780250 (external link)
Gut feelings though? Nikon menus and button layout still blow, honestly laid out by morons. The shape of the grip is stupid, you've got to have pretty weird shaped mitts for it to fit, it's simply awful to hold with a heavy lens on, I doubt I could use it without being annoyed without a grip if it were my everyday camera. It's buttons and general build are in a different league to Canon though, it just feels more expensive and better put together. I like the round viewfinder.

The camera was laid out by a crazy blind engineer who had no idea about how to design a user interface. You get used to it, but Canon is easier to control.

I don't mind the grip, and the Nikon 24-70's an awesome lens, very sharp and focuses well. It also takes being dropped pretty well. Grip seems fine to me, but my biggest lens is the 70-200 F2.8 II. They are well made cameras.


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Jul 28, 2012 17:37 |  #4118

Speaking of Nikon, it appears the D4 has a major white balance and screen green colour issue:

http://xerodigital.ca/​canon-1dx-nikon-d4/ (external link)


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Jul 28, 2012 18:39 |  #4119

Cant beat a relic, 5d2, 17-40L

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Jul 28, 2012 19:12 |  #4120

theflyingkiwi wrote in post #14780517 (external link)
I never understood the need jump ship so quickly when a new camera comes on to the market.

You should upgrade you gear when it becomes a barrier in your own style of photography

I agree :)


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Jul 28, 2012 19:22 as a reply to  @ lil_miss's post |  #4121

Nice shot Rob!

The huge dynamic range of the D800 is tempting for landscapes though, isn't it? I love shooting beach sunsets and HDR/blended exposures just don't cut it when you are shooting movement like waves.

Hopefully Canon comes out with something similar in the near future :)


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Jul 28, 2012 20:29 as a reply to  @ Potisdad's post |  #4122

Reverse grad via RAW
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=t7sQyaEKfMU (external link)

2 step process

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using 2 grads for effects

moving water is a pain on merging or panos.


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Jul 28, 2012 20:55 |  #4123

That shot I just posted would still be beyond the d800's dynamic range, I'd need to have lifted areas 5 stops or more.


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Jul 28, 2012 21:30 as a reply to  @ RobDickinson's post |  #4124

http://www.dxomark.com …Review/Sensor-performance (external link)

Not bad

http://www.dxomark.com …less-bandwagon-with-EOS-M (external link)

new from canon and can take our lens


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Jul 28, 2012 22:38 |  #4125

Yeah not bad but still not enough given in the real world you dont get that many stops.


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