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Jul 29, 2012 16:29 |  #1

Wonder why they're so expensive and hard to get? Watch this fun video, they are completely hand made, which is quite interesting and very labor intensive.
http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=lMu_m203YaY (external link)

their own website is also interesting

http://www.leefilters.​com/ (external link)

Kind of fun to see some of the people that will eventually be making my set :-)


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Jul 30, 2012 08:14 |  #2

impressive. thanks for sharing!


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Jul 30, 2012 08:56 |  #3

Hire more people? lol been waiting on mine for a month or so now. :)




  
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Jul 30, 2012 17:18 |  #4

Interesting video. Thanks for posting it.


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Aug 09, 2012 05:16 |  #5

It doesn't have to be this way. If someone at Lee wanted to get the company out of the 1980's, they could have a better product made in higher volumes. I discussed this video with a specialist in process automation, and he identified several points where robots or machines could be more accurate and more efficient. The change would require a significant investment, but it would pay off eventually. Perhaps the owners of the company don't see the market growing enough to support that kind of investment, or maybe they are nearing retirement and just don't care.


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Sep 05, 2012 17:42 |  #6
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That's a great video ... mine come tomorrow :D




  
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Sep 08, 2012 19:12 |  #7

Phrasikleia wrote in post #14834659 (external link)
It doesn't have to be this way. If someone at Lee wanted to get the company out of the 1980's, they could have a better product made in higher volumes. I discussed this video with a specialist in process automation, and he identified several points where robots or machines could be more accurate and more efficient. The change would require a significant investment, but it would pay off eventually. Perhaps the owners of the company don't see the market growing enough to support that kind of investment, or maybe they are nearing retirement and just don't care.

I was thinking the same thing while watching the video. The lamination, cutting, dipping, quality-control checking, cleaning, and etching could all be automated. In particular, the dipping could be made more consistent. But i think you're right, the market is not large and likely not expanding to justify the automation investment.

However, I'd like to see how a reverse grad filter is made.

As for the Lee hardware, i wonder why the screws and holders run through periodic shortages. And why are there no alternative sources for the screws? Its an odd pitch, i searched 2 complete hardware stores and neither had screws that fit the holders exactly.


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Sep 10, 2012 13:07 |  #8

Dano39 wrote in post #14789691 (external link)
Hire more people? lol been waiting on mine for a month or so now. :)

Just a month....One of my Lee filters took nine months to arrive:lol:


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Sep 10, 2012 14:04 |  #9

biodan wrote in post #14965380 (external link)
I was thinking the same thing while watching the video. The lamination, cutting, dipping, quality-control checking, cleaning, and etching could all be automated. In particular, the dipping could be made more consistent. But i think you're right, the market is not large and likely not expanding to justify the automation investment.

However, I'd like to see how a reverse grad filter is made.

As for the Lee hardware, i wonder why the screws and holders run through periodic shortages. And why are there no alternative sources for the screws? Its an odd pitch, i searched 2 complete hardware stores and neither had screws that fit the holders exactly.

Hardware stores are useless for screw/bolt stocks. Try www.mcmaster.com (external link) theyll likely have a bag of 100 of whatever screw Lee uses for cheap.


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Sep 10, 2012 14:17 |  #10

Phrasikleia wrote in post #14834659 (external link)
It doesn't have to be this way. If someone at Lee wanted to get the company out of the 1980's, they could have a better product made in higher volumes. I discussed this video with a specialist in process automation, and he identified several points where robots or machines could be more accurate and more efficient. The change would require a significant investment, but it would pay off eventually. Perhaps the owners of the company don't see the market growing enough to support that kind of investment, or maybe they are nearing retirement and just don't care.

Or they might run a family business where they value the jobs of their employees. Automation of jobs and the outsourcing of factories overseas in the pursuit of profit is not all its cracked up to be!!!!


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Sep 10, 2012 17:15 |  #11

IanW wrote in post #14972747 (external link)
Or they might run a family business where they value the jobs of their employees. Automation of jobs and the outsourcing of factories overseas in the pursuit of profit is not all its cracked up to be!!!!

Who said anything about outsourcing? And why can't current employees be trained on new equipment?


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Sep 10, 2012 19:07 |  #12

thedge wrote in post #14972687 (external link)
Hardware stores are useless for screw/bolt stocks. Try www.mcmaster.com (external link) theyll likely have a bag of 100 of whatever screw Lee uses for cheap.

Problem is determining the screw's pitch. A well-equipped Sears hardware store had both standard (english) and metric in all kinds of sizes. I could get a standard screw to fit loosely but it still wasn't right. Rather difficult to determine with an online catalog. Does anyone know the _exact_ size and screw pitch?

Edit: just checked McMasters and their countersunk, slotted 6/32 only comes in 1 pitch.


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Sep 10, 2012 19:14 |  #13

What's wrong with a company being the size they want to be and producing what they want to produce.

Isn't it their company?


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Sep 10, 2012 19:15 |  #14

Phrasikleia wrote in post #14834659 (external link)
It doesn't have to be this way. If someone at Lee wanted to get the company out of the 1980's, they could have a better product made in higher volumes. I discussed this video with a specialist in process automation, and he identified several points where robots or machines could be more accurate and more efficient. The change would require a significant investment, but it would pay off eventually. Perhaps the owners of the company don't see the market growing enough to support that kind of investment, or maybe they are nearing retirement and just don't care.


Maybe.......just maybe it is exactly how they want it.


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Sep 10, 2012 19:28 |  #15

I just can't believe there aren't more options available. Fine and dandy if Lee wants to drop the ball, but someone else normally steps up to fill the gap.

That hasn't really happened here.




  
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