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Jul 31, 2012 08:36 |  #1

Think I'll have the funds to pick up a lens in a couple weeks and am trying to figure out what to go for. (currently have a T3i and use the 18-55 kit lens) I have been wanting the 24-70 but the price seems a bit high. I've also started looking at the 24-105 as the price is very reasonable. I'm trying to figure out the reasoning behind either going with or not going with either lens.

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IS
$800 or less (tons of these available because of 5D kit purchases)

24-70
f2.8


Most 24-70s (used) I have been looking at are all in the $1,300 range. I'm having trouble deciding if that stop is worth the $500 premium. I don't have a flash yet and am really thinking that the $500 saved on a 24-105 could be spent on a 430EX and still have 2-300 left over.

I already have an 85 1.8 and plan on getting a 50 1.4 eventually. (after a 70-200) So having those primes (and a flash or two) available, is there really any reason to pay extra for the 24-70?




  
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Jul 31, 2012 08:46 |  #2

I have the 24-105L and can highly recommend it. Unless you want the f2.8 lens for professional use, I can't see spending the extra money and getting the extra weight with the f2.8. I'd get the longer zoom and a shorter fast prime for your T2i. I tend to use the 35f2 indoors at night, but the 24-105L works fine indoors when lighting is good.
With the T3i, it is going to feel like the tail wagging the dog. The 24-70 is a very heavy lens, and heavier than I'd like. But this is just a personal view - others may share it. I'd try one out before going for the brick.
You can pick up the 24-105L and a fast, short prime for less than the cost of the 24-70L. I got a white box version from Adorama that ran me $829. You can't always get this good a price, but if you wait and look around, you can get a better deal on the 24-105L.




  
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Jul 31, 2012 08:54 as a reply to  @ artyH's post |  #3

Personally I'd rather go 24-70 - for me (my shooting and opinion). But If I had what you have, I would not go for the 24-70. I would go the 24-105 and a flash. The 24-105 is a great lens, and I think a flash is more important than an f/2.8 (my opinion).


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Jul 31, 2012 09:10 |  #4

Subscribing on this thread, I also have this question right now. Hope we don't see the '17-55 and 15-85 coz it's crop' guys. To show some opinion, I personally like the 24-70 you will never know when you will need that extra stop. Cheers.




  
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Jul 31, 2012 09:26 |  #5

I was at this cross road once, and ended up buying the 24-105 because my main purpose and objective for were: a light weight, walk around/hiking/sight seeing/travel light lens.

The 24-105 fits this bill perfectly with its bigger zoom range, IS, and much lighter than the 24-70.

On your T3i, I think it will feel very unbalanced if you got the 24-70 compared to the 24-105.


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Jul 31, 2012 09:27 |  #6

Biggest advantage of DSLR compare to P&S is in accurate and fast AF with lenses supporting large apertures. DSLR pictures taken at large apertures makes main difference from P&S.
24-70 has large aperture. 24-105 has convenience, even more compare to P&S.
It is up to you what to choose.


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Jul 31, 2012 09:30 |  #7

I know you dont want to here from us 'guys'. But the 24-xmm will be to narrow at the wide end imo for a walkabout lens, its the equivalent of 40-168mm.

The 17-55mm f/2.8 is a much better focal range for a walkabout lens 27-88mm equivalent, constant 1 stop faster aperture, smaller and cheaper. I would go for that over a 24-105mm 4.0L unless you dont wanna use it as a walkabout lens.


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Jul 31, 2012 09:36 |  #8

^ that's what I'm afraid of. Guys, please limit to the TS specified lenses. I think, he will highlight "other
Lenses" if he want's to. But stating 2 specific lenses means he want us to pin point which of the two. Hope I don't create a fuss here. Just stating what's been thought in school if you where given answers to choose from a to d. Don't give me an e.




  
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Jul 31, 2012 09:38 |  #9

dannybres wrote in post #14794777 (external link)
I know you dont want to here from us 'guys'. But the 24-xmm will be to narrow at the wide end imo for a walkabout lens, its the equivalent of 40-168mm.

The 17-55mm f/2.8 is a much better focal range for a walkabout lens 27-88mm equivalent, constant 1 stop faster aperture, smaller and cheaper. I would go for that over a 24-105mm 4.0L unless you dont wanna use it as a walkabout lens.

I understand what you are trying to say, but I already have an 18-55 and honestly rarely use it at 18. Most of the time is is zoomed at least a little and more often around 35 and 55mm. I don't think the 10mm difference in appearance is going to be that big a deal as I normally have the capability to take one step back. Also, and I didn't include this in my original thread, but i do eventually want to go FF and I would rather not buy something now and need to sell it off.




  
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Jul 31, 2012 09:41 |  #10

mikeinctown wrote in post #14794808 (external link)
I understand what you are trying to say, but I already have an 18-55 and honestly rarely use it at 18. Most of the time is is zoomed at least a little and more often around 35 and 55mm. I don't think the 10mm difference in appearance is going to be that big a deal as I normally have the capability to take one step back. Also, and I didn't include this in my original thread, but i do eventually want to go FF and I would rather not buy something now and need to sell it off.

That's what I'm talking about. I too have the same dilemma and in the same shoes right now.




  
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Jul 31, 2012 09:55 |  #11

It's going to depend a bit on what you shot mostly. If its always low light then maybe the 24-70, but with such decent high ISO noise on the t3i and even better when you go full frame running a slower lens may not be an issue. If your shot lighting varies I'd say save the money and go for the 24-105 and the flash. Unless your keen on only natural light shots the external flash will open up more avenues. Also your bigger cameras dont have a pop-up flash AFAIK


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Jul 31, 2012 09:56 as a reply to  @ belias1989's post |  #12

Unless you "KNOW" that you need the f/2.8 go with the 24-105L; you never stated what your primary intended use was.


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Jul 31, 2012 10:05 |  #13

Reitrating my food for thought, you will never know when you will need that extra stop. From freezing motion to having that natural light perspective.




  
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Jul 31, 2012 10:11 |  #14

Rocky Rhode wrote in post #14794877 (external link)
Unless you "KNOW" that you need the f/2.8 go with the 24-105L; you never stated what your primary intended use was.

I pretty much take pictures of my kids and my GF and her kid. Family functions and really anything else that catches my eye as I walk around. I'm still learning the manual functions and getting tons of practice. Pretty much everything I have done is outside or inside where it is well lit. I rarely even use my flash, so I'm guessing that if I had one and if it was poorly lit inside, that I could easily create enough light with the purchased flash. I do want to start doing portrait type shots, and this is why I picked up the 85 1.8 and plan on getting the 50 down the road. (maybe a 35 instead of the 50, who knows. The 70-200 I plan on getting will be the 2.8 v2 with IS)




  
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Jul 31, 2012 11:22 |  #15

mikeinctown wrote in post #14794939 (external link)
I pretty much take pictures of my kids and my GF and her kid. Family functions and really anything else that catches my eye as I walk around. I'm still learning the manual functions and getting tons of practice. Pretty much everything I have done is outside or inside where it is well lit. I rarely even use my flash, so I'm guessing that if I had one and if it was poorly lit inside, that I could easily create enough light with the purchased flash. I do want to start doing portrait type shots, and this is why I picked up the 85 1.8 and plan on getting the 50 down the road. (maybe a 35 instead of the 50, who knows. The 70-200 I plan on getting will be the 2.8 v2 with IS)

I still stand by my thought above, but!

How about a new scenario. Since you are not sure with these two, keep your current lens. IMO first get the flash! Then save and get the 70-200MKII, since you know you want that lens. Update the normal range zoom after the tele-zoom. That gives you a LOT more time to decide.


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