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The 40mm 'Pancake' is a transformative lens!

 
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Aug 03, 2012 23:57 |  #16

wayne.robbins wrote in post #14798778 (external link)
Has anyone also considered going backwards to a Rebel- for out and about ?

I wouldn't call it backwards.
When I had my 7D I kept an old XTi kicking around as a spare body. When I added the 5DII I thought having 3 DSLR's was OTT so I sold the XTi, and I actually missed having that light, take it anywhere Rebel body. After I sold the 7D I reconsidered and picked up a nice XSi.
Having a small light DSLR that shares all my lenses is quite useful.


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Aug 04, 2012 01:48 as a reply to  @ Perfect_10's post |  #17

wayne.robbins wrote in post #14798778 (external link)
Has anyone also considered going backwards to a Rebel- for out and about ?

Yeah, im considering picking up a 550D or 600D. Partly for a light body to just jam in the bag, partly for my wife to use when we go out shooting, and partly because it supports MagicLantern and can do internal bulb ramping :)




  
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Aug 04, 2012 10:03 |  #18

I'd have a look at www.panamoz.com (external link) if you're in the UK. They have some great prices and give great service. I got a 70-200 MkII delivered in 3 days. They don't ship to the US unfortunately, but to the UK is no problem. They've got it at £154 at the moment http://panamoz.com …2-8-stm-pancake-lens.html (external link)


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Aug 04, 2012 12:25 |  #19

Sorarse wrote in post #14796682 (external link)
$199 state side, £199 in the UK. Not sure what happened to the exchange rate there, other than to say it's another example of rip-off UK.

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Yeah, that's always seemed a bit unfair to me that they just take whatever the U.S. price is and throw a pound symbol instead of the dollar sign, as if it were the same thing.

Brits have higher prices, but a National Healthcare Service.
Yanks have lower prices, but high costs of health insurance and/or out-of-pocket fees.

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Aug 05, 2012 01:46 |  #20

280€ here in France for this tiny thing... Nobody wants it !

For comparison, it's twice the price of the nifty (although it's findable at 99€ new) and 80€ less than 50/1.4. No brainer ?!

@wilt : I would prefer pay my own healthcare policy than the national one you pay for unemployed, poor... It's totaly free for them. I let you imagine that they prefer stay assisted with all those governement helps. Because it's not only healthcare : free transports, € helps for each child (count 1500€ for 3 kids), No taxation, Offered retirement...


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Aug 05, 2012 02:11 |  #21

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I don't understand the logic of the pancake lens on a dSLR. I'm very happy with my bulky 5D2 and grip with any of my bulky zooms fitted, it goes everywhere with me no problem at all.

I am with you here. I just don't get it. With this new Canon mirrorless body and EFm 20mm that would be where I would want to be if I was that concerned about weight. Either that or an S100. We are still talking about putting it on a bulky DSLR.


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Aug 05, 2012 03:17 |  #22

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I am with you here. I just don't get it. With this new Canon mirrorless body and EFm 20mm that would be where I would want to be if I was that concerned about weight. Either that or an S100. We are still talking about putting it on a bulky DSLR.

Indeed. For me, size and weight have been a non-issue for comparable (and significantly faster!) lenses on a regular DSLR. The 50mm f/1.8 and f/1.4 seem puny on my 1Ds, and just right on a Rebel. So I have a hard time getting excited about a smaller prime that "only" does f/2.8 without offering another special feature such as macro or extreme telephoto. It may be a small lens but it'll still be attached to a big camera.


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Aug 05, 2012 03:20 |  #23

I love how you guys pretend a 60D or larger body suddenly turns into a camera the size of an s100 when you put the panacake lens on.


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Aug 05, 2012 03:25 |  #24

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Have you considered the 50 f/1.8, the 28 f/2.8, 24 f/2.8, 35 f/2? Small portable lenses have been around for Canon EOS for a long time now.

That's what I don't get. The 40mm is only 1" thinner than all those lenses and no lighter than the 50mm f1.8 II. So what's the hype, other than it's new.

This is "transformative" compared to the 50mm (the 24, 28, 35 are the same size, too): http://camerasize.com …8.306,328.345,1​83.30,ha,t (external link)


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Aug 05, 2012 03:36 |  #25

tkbslc wrote in post #14816076 (external link)
I love how you guys pretend a 60D or larger body suddenly turns into a camera the size of an s100 when you put the panacake lens on.

:lol::lol: I always like your comments.
It is a fun lens though. It really doesn't make your rig that much smaller, but it's pancake-ness really does make a difference for street shooting, since it doesn't really "point" at folks much. The bigger and longer a lens is, the more aggressive it appears to people when you point it at them. Also, people aren't always that rational, as you well know. I don't mind the weight or size of a larger lens, and do walk around with a 70-200 Mark 2 when I'm of a mind. However, there is something that is just kind of fun about this lens. I have a 24-105, which I think is an awesome lens, and not overly big or heavy, but for some idiotic reason, I just don't physically enjoy using it that much. This little "pancake" (in Asia they call it a "Biscuit" lens, which doesn't mean what American's think, but is apparently British English For "Cookie," and is a much better name) is just oddly fun to shoot with. I have an ebay fake black rapids strap that hangs my camera down by my hip. I can shoot uspide-down shots one-handed with my 5d3 and this lens and actually be unnoticed. That's nice. (Most shots miss, of course, but I just started trying it).


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Aug 05, 2012 03:37 |  #26

tkbslc wrote in post #14816084 (external link)
That's what I don't get. The 40mm is only 1" thinner than all those lenses and no lighter than the 50mm f1.8 II. So what's the hype, other than it's new.

This is "transformative" compared to the 50mm (the 24, 28, 35 are the same size, too): http://camerasize.com …8.306,328.345,1​83.30,ha,t (external link)

Sharper and nicer bokeh than my old 50 1.8

Here is the comparison for me:
http://camerasize.com/​compact/#333.345,154.2​1,ha,t (external link)

Although that said, i might consider picking up a mirrorless yet, just for in the bag carry around day to day stuff.




  
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Aug 05, 2012 03:47 |  #27

Most of you hating on the 40 have probably not tried it yet. The size and weight make a palpable difference in portability and being able to fit it into smaller bags/spaces. I bought one for "****s and giggles", thinking $200 was not much in the grand scheme of things and could probably re-sell it at no/almost no loss if I didn't like it. A month later and it's now my "leave-on" lens for when I'm on the go. You can throw numbers like ounces and inches around, arguing that "it's doesn't really make a difference with a huge honking DSLR", but it does. It really does. I daresay it makes me want to go out and shoot for myself a lot more now.

And really, the image quality is not shabby at all at this price point.


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Aug 05, 2012 05:28 as a reply to  @ darosk's post |  #28

I bought it less than a week ago. It is sharp wide open and makes room for another lens in the bag. If you carry prime lenses around, that's a big deal.


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Aug 05, 2012 05:59 |  #29

darosk wrote in post #14816119 (external link)
Most of you hating on the 40 have probably not tried it yet. T

No one is "hating on" anything. The objections stated so far have been reasonable. So have the arguments in favor of (including yours).


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Aug 05, 2012 06:07 |  #30

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No one is "hating on" anything. The objections stated so far have been reasonable. So have the arguments in favor of (including yours).

A little slang never hurt nobody ;)


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