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Aug 04, 2012 15:44 |  #1

Rented a Canon 100-400mm for this game. Enjoyed using it. Had front row aisle seats in the center/right outfield. I'd love to go back sometime and sit along the first base line with this lens.

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Aug 04, 2012 16:10 |  #2

really like 3,4 and 6




  
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Aug 04, 2012 18:55 |  #3

Ehh


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Aug 04, 2012 23:30 |  #4

First time ever using the lens...and some of these were at night so I think I did ok. Always happy to receive constructive criticism...

But....

"Ehh"?

You can keep that to yourself.


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Aug 04, 2012 23:34 |  #5

rick_reno wrote in post #14814323 (external link)
really like 3,4 and 6

Thanks!!


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Aug 05, 2012 01:16 |  #6

Surprised you got in as some stadiums won't allow big lenses

Photo 1. delete. no face no action....ehh :) I know you are limited by position but don't shoot backs of players
2. Better but crop tighter on batter,catcher,ump
3. Same as above but don't bother shooting vertical from that position..not needed
4. Bunch of guys taliking and you cant really see faxes of any of them...plus looks a bit out of focus...
5. Ok sportrait but a bit soft.
6. Same as above but try to get full body shot here and not crop off leg.

With your position you are pretty limited about what you can shoot and you need to make sure your focus is perfect as you will be cropping big time on anything you shoot. Try from here next time to get outfielders making a play or plays at 2B...ie closer action.

Personally Id prefer sitting behind 3b with that lens as most batters, even lefties, will generally turn and look generally that way when they follow ball that is hit. Also that side if a RH is throwing.


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Aug 05, 2012 02:50 |  #7

Jensgt wrote in post #14815678 (external link)
First time ever using the lens...and some of these were at night so I think I did ok. Always happy to receive constructive criticism...

But....

"Ehh"?

You can keep that to yourself.

I was replying to rick reno.

If you want CC from me I will happily give it though.


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Aug 05, 2012 07:33 |  #8

cstewart wrote in post #14815911 (external link)
Surprised you got in as some stadiums won't allow big lenses

Photo 1. delete. no face no action....ehh :) I know you are limited by position but don't shoot backs of players
2. Better but crop tighter on batter,catcher,ump
3. Same as above but don't bother shooting vertical from that position..not needed
4. Bunch of guys taliking and you cant really see faxes of any of them...plus looks a bit out of focus...
5. Ok sportrait but a bit soft.
6. Same as above but try to get full body shot here and not crop off leg.

With your position you are pretty limited about what you can shoot and you need to make sure your focus is perfect as you will be cropping big time on anything you shoot. Try from here next time to get outfielders making a play or plays at 2B...ie closer action.

Personally Id prefer sitting behind 3b with that lens as most batters, even lefties, will generally turn and look generally that way when they follow ball that is hit. Also that side if a RH is throwing.

Yeah I agree with all that, and I am going to give it a second go with a better viewpoint sometime when I am on my own. I was with my husband this time around it made it hard to put as much concentration into it. Also since i was on the aisle I had that terrible glass wall thing up, which got in my way. Seats were not as awesome as I thought they would be for shooting.

As for the lens, Nats park has an 8 inch rule...and this one is 7.4" fully retracted. They did not even look at it though...they just glance in the bag and let me go...so all they saw was the t shirt I had in there.


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Aug 05, 2012 07:39 |  #9

ajaffe wrote in post #14816038 (external link)
I was replying to rick reno.

If you want CC from me I will happily give it though.

Well..yeah. Maybe 3rd time will be a charm since you already have 2 useless posts here. :lol:


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Aug 05, 2012 20:18 |  #10

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Well..yeah. Maybe 3rd time will be a charm since you already have 2 useless posts here. :lol:

Oh your attitude is fantastic! My apologies for not pulling a reno and blindly showering you with praise instead of helping you improve.

Many of these issues are not new lens related.

1. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. Out of Focus. No faces. Background distracting. Composition is off. Timing is off, are you trying to capture the release or the follow through?
2. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. Out of Focus. Background distracting. Composition is off. Cropped too loosely, but you will experience even more sharpness issues from cropping. Timing is off, this could be anything since the image is not telling the story.
3. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. Out of Focus. Background distracting. Composition is off. Cropped too loosely. Timing is off, one frame later where he is full follow through or coming out of the box would do much more for the viewer.
4. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. White balance is off. Only one face. Out of focus for the group. And what story is this image telling?
5. Delete. White Balance. Composition is off. White balance is off. You cut his glove off. Yay Harper walking slowly and I have a photo! What is the story? Where is the emotion?
6. Delete. White Balance. Composition is off. Timing is off, you caught him in between strides which makes him look awkward and like an amputee. And again, what is the story?

Edit* Also I have seen your website, you are much more capable than these 6 images.


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Aug 05, 2012 22:30 |  #11

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Oh your attitude is fantastic! My apologies for not pulling a reno and blindly showering you with praise instead of helping you improve.

Many of these issues are not new lens related.

1. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. Out of Focus. No faces. Background distracting. Composition is off. Timing is off, are you trying to capture the release or the follow through?
2. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. Out of Focus. Background distracting. Composition is off. Cropped too loosely, but you will experience even more sharpness issues from cropping. Timing is off, this could be anything since the image is not telling the story.
3. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. Out of Focus. Background distracting. Composition is off. Cropped too loosely. Timing is off, one frame later where he is full follow through or coming out of the box would do much more for the viewer.
4. Delete. Underexposed. Horizons. White balance is off. Only one face. Out of focus for the group. And what story is this image telling?
5. Delete. White Balance. Composition is off. White balance is off. You cut his glove off. Yay Harper walking slowly and I have a photo! What is the story? Where is the emotion?
6. Delete. White Balance. Composition is off. Timing is off, you caught him in between strides which makes him look awkward and like an amputee. And again, what is the story?

Edit* Also I have seen your website, you are much more capable than these 6 images.

The more I look at them I am not really happy about them. I am usually really picky about what I share...those baseball games just frustrate me because it takes a lot of effort and I did not pull it off. I can admit that...I never expected blind praise not sure why you think that. I just get pissed off to see.. "Ehh"...and then my attitude gets attacked? Did I miss something here? lol.

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Aug 06, 2012 19:59 |  #12

Again, my "ehh" comment was to Rick Reno because he runs around and say he likes ______ but never gives reasons why, which is fine, but in my opinion is bad in that it does not help give true feedback that can be grown from. Your replies seem to be based on me saying it to you, which really wasn't the case at all.

Sports are a tough thing. But like I said too, your animal stuff shows you have the know-how to compose and make a good image, so just take your own advice and be pickier and you will improve a lot faster.


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Aug 06, 2012 20:38 |  #13

I am not a mind reader, I think most people would have interpreted it the same way I did. Either way I appreciate the feedback.

The Baysox minor league stadium is 5 minutes from my house...and I think it may be better to try and get better shooting there. Shooting in a major league stadium (from the seats) just seems super tough and I am always torn whether to shoot or just enjoy the game I paid so much to attend.

I felt so bad about not getting the shots I wanted at the game, I went to the zoo yesterday morning before turning in the lens and got some shots I really liked a lot. Made me feel better. lol


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Aug 06, 2012 23:26 |  #14

To be fair in post 7 I said so, but let's move on.

You can safely shoot from behind netting if you are close enough to it and are at long enough of a focal length, so try shooting from behind home plate for a bit to change it up since you have more freedom at a Minor League venue.


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