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Jul 28, 2012 23:06 |  #376

Hikin Mike wrote in post #14781755 (external link)
Links do help as long as it's relative. No point in getting links to an automotive site if you do weddings. I would say forums are not that important, for links. I still think content is king IMO. :D

Content, long term outlook, will always be king.

But man, links are the bread and butter of SEO these days and it's frustrating as hell. I've seen sites with literally no content bounce to the top of big G and when I check their links it's all just SPAM - gotten by using SPAM software. Horrible.


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Jul 28, 2012 23:15 |  #377

Consider the following. My main website has almost nil content (text) on it. My blog has loads of content on it. My main website ranks far higher than my blog (pages ahead actually) and it really is due mainly to the fact that the backlink profile of my main site is stronger (more links, more diversity in terms of where those links come from). Conclusion: links with appropriate anchor text are extraordinarily important.



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Jul 28, 2012 23:26 |  #378

I've seen this too. My advice: try to grab the backlinks they have that aren't spam (and that are relevant) in addition to building links using your own methods. And then watch these sites plummet as google catches on to what they are doing. It may take a few months, but google is better at referee-ing the game than most think. Whatever you do, don't adopt the style of these sites.

I have witnessed competitors who were ahead of me and who were clearly paying for backlinks get caught and get spanked by google. I'm now on page 1 and they are way way below the fold.

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Content, long term outlook, will always be king.

But man, links are the bread and butter of SEO these days and it's frustrating as hell. I've seen sites with literally no content bounce to the top of big G and when I check their links it's all just SPAM - gotten by using SPAM software. Horrible.



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Aug 05, 2012 12:19 |  #379

For those of you on wordpress install and use Yoast (external link) religiously. The plugin walks you through every post that you make and tells you if you need more content, or if you need to add a link or a better description on your photos. I have seen huge improvements on traffic to my site, Olstudios (external link), by using Yoast.



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Aug 07, 2012 20:06 |  #380

Would anyone mind taking a look at my new site?! I just finished it and started spreading the word! www.ajkimages.com (external link) :) I am open and looking forward to any positive or negative feedback!!


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Aug 07, 2012 20:17 |  #381

I hate to be direct (actually I like it !) but it looks like you haven't read the very basics as discussed in this thread.

1. you linked to your site and didn't use anchor text. I'm not saying do it every time; but you should do it a lot of the time.
2. Title tag is incredibly spammy. Repeating phrases doesn't gain you popularity with google--you're likely to be penalized for 'over optimizing'.
3. meta keywords section filled in as it is looks pretty spammy. Google is your main organic source and google doesn't use meta keywords AT ALL in ranking.

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Would anyone mind taking a look at my new site?! I just finished it and started spreading the word! www.ajkimages.com (external link) :) I am open and looking forward to any positive or negative feedback!!



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Aug 23, 2012 16:02 |  #382

I have a few (3) questions about SEO. I've been working on it for a little while. I'm using wordpress with the 'Yoast' plugin.

I would like the 'googlers' to find me with this search:
wedding photographer Wichita KS
Does it matter to Google if I make a sentence out of it in my content? Example:
We are quality wedding photographers in Wichita KS

Will making it a: Photographer's' and adding the 'in' hurt me? I think I will sound unprofessional if I somehow put 'wedding photographer Wichita KS' somewhere on my page for people to see.

Also: Do you optimize for the word photographer or photography? what do you think is more commonly searched by brides?

Final question (for now :D )
How much should I worry about the Flesch Reading Ease test? Does Google care if it is "moderately difficult" to read?

Thanks so much for the help!!!


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Aug 23, 2012 16:25 |  #383

My advice would be to use your exact keywords in the order that enjoys the most searches ('wedding photographer Wichita KS' e.g.) for your meta title tag, and in the anchor text of links you have pointing to your site (though mix this in with 'normal' looking links too). Use your content area to speak naturally to your possible clients. If you succeed at bringing folks to your website by ranking well in google, it is for nothing if your page sounds like a robot is writing it rather than a person.

So in sum: I'd write your content areas, your on-page areas, in the way that communicates best to your possible clients. Include your keywords; but don't bend over backwards.

Another tip: use google keyword tool to identify which keywords enjoy the most searches and just stick with that. Interestingly enough, I've optimized my main site for 'ottawa wedding photography' yet I rank way higher for 'ottawa wedding photographer' -- which in fact is the more searched for terms.

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I have a few (3) questions about SEO. I've been working on it for a little while. I'm using wordpress with the 'Yoast' plugin.

I would like the 'googlers' to find me with this search:
wedding photographer Wichita KS
Does it matter to Google if I make a sentence out of it in my content? Example:
We are quality wedding photographers in Wichita KS

Will making it a: Photographer's' and adding the 'in' hurt me? I think I will sound unprofessional if I somehow put 'wedding photographer Wichita KS' somewhere on my page for people to see.

Also: Do you optimize for the word photographer or photography? what do you think is more commonly searched by brides?

Final question (for now :D )
How much should I worry about the Flesch Reading Ease test? Does Google care if it is "moderately difficult" to read?

Thanks so much for the help!!!



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Sep 19, 2012 16:00 |  #384

Thanks Christopher!

I have yet another question... this one is with the actual URL's
Should I use:
marshallphotographyks.​com/photo-booth
or:
marshallphotographyks.​com/photo-booth-rental-wichita

same goes for:
.../weddings or .../wedding-photographer-wichita

If it is better for SEO to have the longer ones that have a couple keywords, then would it hurt me SEO-wise to create 301 redirects from /weddings to /wedding-photographer-wichita so that I can still post links on social media that are nice and easy like: marshallphotographyks.​com/weddings even though there is no page there?


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Sep 21, 2012 10:37 |  #385

I haven't checked to see how you've organized the SEO of your home page + other pages lower in the hierarchy, but in general it is good to rank more sub-pages (by this I just mean non-home pages) for different things that can possibly rank well. If you have a sub-page about photo-booth rentals, then, yes, those keywords in the friendly url will be helpful. Take care not to push it so hard that it looks odd, though.

If ' /wedding-photographer...' refers to a sub-page (ie. from a link on the home page), then I probably wouldn't bother using that friendly url. Your home page (presuming it is solely about wedding photography-and it should be) is your best place for that. Check out what I do in my galleries for a good idea of what I would recommend, and try to think why I set it up that way.

I don't think 301 directs that lead to a page are a problem at all. But I'm not sure how helpful it will be for the work required.

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Thanks Christopher!

I have yet another question... this one is with the actual URL's
Should I use:
marshallphotographyks.​com/photo-booth
or:
marshallphotographyks.​com/photo-booth-rental-wichita

same goes for:
.../weddings or .../wedding-photographer-wichita

If it is better for SEO to have the longer ones that have a couple keywords, then would it hurt me SEO-wise to create 301 redirects from /weddings to /wedding-photographer-wichita so that I can still post links on social media that are nice and easy like: marshallphotographyks.​com/weddings even though there is no page there?



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Oct 08, 2012 00:09 as a reply to  @ post 5222357 |  #386

Read the Google SEO handbook. Very very helpful!!!


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Oct 12, 2012 05:50 |  #387

A good useful tool to use to see where your page stands and what needs work...

SEO Zio for Google Chrome Users.


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Oct 17, 2012 16:44 |  #388

Anyone have some good leads on some solid backlinks for your websites SEO?
Everything else on my websitel ooks good, I just don't have many backlinks because its just my portfolio, and not alot of additional information


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Oct 17, 2012 16:54 |  #389

^ What are you trying to rank for ?



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Oct 17, 2012 17:51 |  #390

Local photography for my area....for weddings, seniors photos and other portraiture.

However, good photography databases are going to provide quality backlinks from photography websites to help increase page ranks


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