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Aug 03, 2012 14:42 |  #1

Harsh C&C appreciated.

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Aug 04, 2012 10:15 |  #2

wow, stunnning! love 2,4,5 and 7. that light in 2 is awesome




  
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Aug 04, 2012 14:58 |  #3

Stunning work 2,4,5+7 superb


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Aug 05, 2012 12:42 as a reply to  @ GAZA62's post |  #4

I agree. 2,4,7 are wonderful. The light after a quick storm cannot be described or easily duplicated in any way. Great captures.




  
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Aug 05, 2012 16:23 |  #5

wonderful stuff


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Aug 05, 2012 17:15 |  #6

The white blob on the right in the first one is distracting to me.


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Aug 06, 2012 14:21 |  #7

Thanks for the feedback!

rudder34 wrote in post #14817306 (external link)
The light after a quick storm cannot be described or easily duplicated in any way.

Agreed. The weather during this race were probably my favorite conditions I have ever shot in.


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Aug 06, 2012 15:26 |  #8

[QUOTE=BAD SS;14810270][CENTER]Ha​rsh C&C appreciated.

Hey Trevor,
I'll weigh in with my thoughts.
I see you already defended your color/contrast processing, therefore I'll focus on composition.

one:
The K-Wall on screen right is bit distracting, know what you are trying to do there, maybe crop in tighter to loose more of the wall.

two:
Could be my monitor, but would be nice to lift the darks a bit to bring out some detail in the front of the car. Otherwise a fantastic shot.

three:
Fantastic. The symmetry really works nicely.

four:
An ok shot. Doesn't do a lot for me. I find these rear shots to always be challenging. I feel the visual balance is thrown a off by the white awning in the BG. It competes a lot with the white car.

five:
Perfect. Wouldn't change a thing. I live to get a shot like that. Maybe crop in a bit more to loose that car on screen right? Shot already has a nice 'claustrophobic' feel to it (which I personally like 'cause I feel it engages the viewer).

six:
I feel like it's too cramped up at the top and there's a bit too much room behind the car. The shot lacks the nice visual flow of the others.

seven:
Wow. Really beautiful. This is why we shoot this sport. To get photographs like this.

eight:
Huh? This is very out if place. Not sharp, no real visual focus, the spectators are all looking to the left....at what? The car is small and obscured, and it's not a wide enough lens to capture the vista of the venue. Sorry, this one has no place amongst the others of such high quality.

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Aug 06, 2012 21:50 |  #9

Brad - Seen your photos before and had not connected to the person on the forums. Some spectacular work in there! Really nice stuff. Will you be going out for Grand-Am at Laguna this year in a few weeks?


Wanted to jump in here for some peer to peer C&C since a thread with actual discussion rarely happens in this section. Would like to see it keep rolling so I'll toss the old opinion into the ring.


one:
Same comment as the others. Needs a tighter crop as the wall is dominating the photo.

two:
This photo seems to be popular but outside of showing sunshine after a rain it does little for me. The vehicle appears to have no bumper because of the lighting. I would agree with Brad the photo could be far improved if the shadows were bumped to get some detail.

three:
Highlight of the set for me. The desaturated colors and contrast are not for me but in this photo it doesn't bother me. The symmetry really helps keep the epic level of the photo in tact regardless of editing style.

four:
I disagree with Brad on the white awning. The car pops out of the frame with the muted background colors since it is white(the car). My eyes do not make their way over to the white tire covers. This corner was a tough spot as the cars were loading up suspension and many were sliding... and the background was terrible from the rear. It was tire walls with white covers and then the Speed DJ/Club/whatever. The colors and contrast again though don't work for me. The stripes have become blue and a very dark burgundy.

five:
Agree. Great capture. Always nice to be there when someone goes off and you are able to capture it. The shutter speed works perfectly as you still get the sense of speed but it freezes the gravel flying everywhere. The crop recommendation I don't know. If you cut off the end of the next DP you lose some of the gravel that is being tossed the farthest. Don't know how that would effect the photo overall.

six:
Damaged cars late in the race always tell the viewer "Endurance Race". This photo fits that. I don't think it is too cramped with the track in the lower part of the photo. If it was cropped out of the bottom and the track was there I would have kept that. Helps show where the car is going to end up. My only real complaint is the colors/contrast. A lot of contrast and muted/desaturated colors. The car doesn't pop out of the frame and melds into the background because of this.

seven:
Outside of the contrast/desat this is how shot two should look IMO. The faster shutter speed freezing the spray really highlights the photo. It also allowed a nice shallow depth of field which gives you a sharp DP to look at with spray frozen. The spray, shallow depth of field and harsh light immediately come together to say it just poured and now it is sunny. That special time that drivers are trying to figure out where they can safely drive around the track.

eight:
Looks more like a snapshot as Brad said. Does not fit the rest of the series.


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Aug 06, 2012 23:27 |  #10

Thanks.
No, I was not planning on hitting the Grand-Am event at Laguna Seca. I'm being selective about my events this year. Thanks for the compliment though. I've chatted with Trevor, and have been following the work you guys have been putting out both here and on Jalopnik (where I also submit my work).
I agree that this forum has turned into a place to post shots, but there is often minimal real useful critique. Saying "great shots" to shots that clearly aren't doesn't help anyone(there's one individual on this forum with almost 30,000 posts, whose average post is "great shots, really like 1 & 3" regardless of the quality of the image.
I think your thread for critiquing shots is a great idea. I plan on submitting my own shots too. I think there are some really talented people posting on this forum, and when someone with a good eye and talent gives their opinion, that's when the learning really starts.
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Brad - Seen your photos before and had not connected to the person on the forums. Some spectacular work in there! Really nice stuff. Will you be going out for Grand-Am at Laguna this year in a few weeks?


Wanted to jump in here for some peer to peer C&C since a thread with actual discussion rarely happens in this section. Would like to see it keep rolling so I'll toss the old opinion into the ring.


one:
Same comment as the others. Needs a tighter crop as the wall is dominating the photo.

two:
This photo seems to be popular but outside of showing sunshine after a rain it does little for me. The vehicle appears to have no bumper because of the lighting. I would agree with Brad the photo could be far improved if the shadows were bumped to get some detail.

three:
Highlight of the set for me. The desaturated colors and contrast are not for me but in this photo it doesn't bother me. The symmetry really helps keep the epic level of the photo in tact regardless of editing style.

four:
I disagree with Brad on the white awning. The car pops out of the frame with the muted background colors since it is white(the car). My eyes do not make their way over to the white tire covers. This corner was a tough spot as the cars were loading up suspension and many were sliding... and the background was terrible from the rear. It was tire walls with white covers and then the Speed DJ/Club/whatever. The colors and contrast again though don't work for me. The stripes have become blue and a very dark burgundy.

five:
Agree. Great capture. Always nice to be there when someone goes off and you are able to capture it. The shutter speed works perfectly as you still get the sense of speed but it freezes the gravel flying everywhere. The crop recommendation I don't know. If you cut off the end of the next DP you lose some of the gravel that is being tossed the farthest. Don't know how that would effect the photo overall.

six:
Damaged cars late in the race always tell the viewer "Endurance Race". This photo fits that. I don't think it is too cramped with the track in the lower part of the photo. If it was cropped out of the bottom and the track was there I would have kept that. Helps show where the car is going to end up. My only real complaint is the colors/contrast. A lot of contrast and muted/desaturated colors. The car doesn't pop out of the frame and melds into the background because of this.

seven:
Outside of the contrast/desat this is how shot two should look IMO. The faster shutter speed freezing the spray really highlights the photo. It also allowed a nice shallow depth of field which gives you a sharp DP to look at with spray frozen. The spray, shallow depth of field and harsh light immediately come together to say it just poured and now it is sunny. That special time that drivers are trying to figure out where they can safely drive around the track.

eight:
Looks more like a snapshot as Brad said. Does not fit the rest of the series.


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Aug 06, 2012 23:33 |  #11

Yup. After this thread I decided we should have a place specifically for critiquing. Good or bad.

Understand. Sure we will cross paths at some point.


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Aug 07, 2012 00:06 |  #12

Four is outstanding, I also dig 5 and 7 a lot too. Nice work, thanks for sharing!


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Aug 07, 2012 00:22 |  #13

love color in number 4




  
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Aug 07, 2012 03:55 |  #14

2, 3, 4 and 7 for me - stunning.

As for critique - I always presumed that was what the forum was for? If you just want to share then you add that in the post. . . . . don't you?

oh and #8 is cr*p :oops:;)

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Aug 07, 2012 04:43 |  #15

#4 is AWESOME!


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