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Aug 05, 2012 07:28 |  #16

I dont think that longer exposure will change something,

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Thats a photo that I took with the filter..

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Aug 05, 2012 17:27 |  #17

When ever I shoot with my 9stop filter i always go into manual mode, no tv or av modes, i find the camera does really do that good at calculating exposure time with the higher stop ND filters. Manual mode, f8, iso 200-400 maybe even 100 and around a 15-25seconds shutter is where I might start out at and make adjustments on the exposure time and iso only.

But keep in mid that the 10-22mm @10mm is crazy wide so it might be that have you tried 15mm or even 20mm? Does it do this at all focal lengths on that lens?

My 17-40 @ 17mm

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Exif data:
Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS-1D Mark III
Lens: EF17-40mm f/4L USM
Focal Length: 17mm
Focus Distance: 3.72m
Aperture: f/16.0
Exposure Time: 10.000 s
ISO equiv: 50
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)

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Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS-1D Mark III
Lens: EF17-40mm f/4L USM
Focal Length: 32mm
Focus Distance: Infinite
Aperture: f/16.0
Exposure Time: 25.000 s
ISO equiv: 400
Exposure Bias: none
Metering Mode: Matrix
Exposure: Manual
Exposure Mode: Manual
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)

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Aug 05, 2012 17:38 |  #18

I have the hoya 9 stop nd400. It's coated whereas the B+W isn't unless something has changed in recent years.


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Aug 05, 2012 18:31 |  #19

Colorblinded wrote in post #14818302 (external link)
I have the hoya 9 stop nd400. It's coated whereas the B+W isn't unless something has changed in recent years.

The B+W 10-stop does indeed have coated variants: http://www.2filter.com​/prices/products/bwnd.​html (external link)




  
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Aug 05, 2012 18:32 |  #20

I need it especially for 10mm wide angle.
These photos looks amazing, well done. :)
It seems that you doesnt have any vignetting at all, are these photos are cropped?
I kept an eye on this filter - http://www.ebay.co.uk …RTQ:GB:1123#ht_​2957wt_931 (external link)
maybe it wont have vignetting because it is a slim filter?

And again, thanks for the help guys. :D


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Aug 05, 2012 19:28 |  #21

koffikapp wrote in post #14818485 (external link)
The B+W 10-stop does indeed have coated variants: http://www.2filter.com​/prices/products/bwnd.​html (external link)

That's good then. My friend got one of the uncoated ones years ago and I never did find any coated ones at the time.


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Aug 06, 2012 00:52 |  #22

TheNewLegend wrote in post #14818486 (external link)
It seems that you doesnt have any vignetting at all, are these photos are cropped?

Thanks, here are the Raw unedited converted straight to jpeg at 1000px long side.

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Aug 06, 2012 02:29 |  #23

ashiundar wrote in post #14784352 (external link)
I've been looking into one as well, but I'm too cheap to do it properly :P. That, and I'm a student, so I've been heavily considering this:

http://www.diyphotogra​phy.net …ass-as-10-stops-nd-filter (external link)

I called Ace and Home Depot, and neither of them seem to carry welding glass on its own, however. But they do sell it on Amazon for about 10 bucks, so I'm thinking of picking it up on there.



Instead of welding glass, I think i'd just stack 2-3 cheap 3x ND

For example,on ebay cheap chinese 77mm ND8 (3 stops) filters are less than $4. Get them bigger than your lens and use a step up ring so you don't get vignetting when stacking.

You could also buy a no-name Cokin holder for a few bucks (which normally come with 3 filter slots) and buy 3 generic COkin ND8 filters. Those are under $3 on ebay. NO rubber bands or goofy head drape needed. You can also vary the strength by using 1, 2 or 3 filters at once.


Yes they are cheap low grade filters, but at least they aren't dark green like the welders mask.


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Aug 06, 2012 22:59 |  #24

tkbslc wrote in post #14819983 (external link)
Instead of welding glass, I think i'd just stack 2-3 cheap 3x ND

For example,on ebay cheap chinese 77mm ND8 (3 stops) filters are less than $4. Get them bigger than your lens and use a step up ring so you don't get vignetting when stacking.

You could also buy a no-name Cokin holder for a few bucks (which normally come with 3 filter slots) and buy 3 generic COkin ND8 filters. Those are under $3 on ebay. NO rubber bands or goofy head drape needed. You can also vary the strength by using 1, 2 or 3 filters at once.

Yes they are cheap low grade filters, but at least they aren't dark green like the welders mask.

And you'll end up with a horrible magenta cast to your shots. That's why people pay $160 and wait for months for the Lee Big Stopper. Everything else will have it's own drawbacks...

My lenses are 82mm, 77mm, 72mm, 67mm, 58mm, & 52mm. So I'd have to buy the ultra expensive 82mm 9 or 10 stop round glass ND filter and a bunch of stepdown rings. That would end up costing as much or more than the Lee BS. So, I'm just going to bite the bullet and get the Lee.

Don't let the Marketplace "Sell" Forum Lee filter flippers turn you off to the Lee Big Stopper cause they're price gouging at $250 a pop. You can order one for around $155 and wait a month or two for it. It's about another $80 for the holder and then you're set with the best solution. Or do what some flippers are doing, order three for ~$450 and sell two at $230 each. You'll make $460 and that gives all your money back plus you'll still have $10 left to pay for shipping the Lee's you sold ($5 each for 2x Priority Mail packages). Then after the dust settles you'll get your Lee BS filter for free.




  
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Aug 07, 2012 00:22 |  #25

I know why people buy the big stopper, I'm just saying that for someone experimenting or unwilling to spend any real money on it, real chinese filters are better than welding glass.


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Aug 07, 2012 07:04 |  #26

baj2k wrote in post #14824037 (external link)
And you'll end up with a horrible magenta cast to your shots. That's why people pay $160 and wait for months for the Lee Big Stopper. Everything else will have it's own drawbacks...

My lenses are 82mm, 77mm, 72mm, 67mm, 58mm, & 52mm. So I'd have to buy the ultra expensive 82mm 9 or 10 stop round glass ND filter and a bunch of stepdown rings. That would end up costing as much or more than the Lee BS. So, I'm just going to bite the bullet and get the Lee.

Don't let the Marketplace "Sell" Forum Lee filter flippers turn you off to the Lee Big Stopper cause they're price gouging at $250 a pop. You can order one for around $155 and wait a month or two for it. It's about another $80 for the holder and then you're set with the best solution. Or do what some flippers are doing, order three for $450 and sell two at $230 each. You'll make $460 and that gives all your money back plus you'll still have $10 left to pay for shipping the Lee's you sold ($5 each for 2x Priority Mail packages). Then after the dust settles you'll get your Lee BS filter for free.

Where can I order it in 155$ or 450$ for three?




  
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Aug 07, 2012 20:50 |  #27

Ori97 wrote in post #14825025 (external link)
Where can I order it in 155$ or 450$ for three?

FYI this symbol ~ means approximately, but here's where.

http://2filter.com …/LeeBigStopperF​ilter.html (external link)




  
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