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Aug 05, 2012 12:00 |  #1

I'd like to hear comparisons of the 100mm 2.8 and the 180mm 3.5, and the pros and cons of each. Do you HAVE to use a tripod with the 180? I've gone back and forth on these two lenses for months. I think i'll probably rent each of them before buying (Even though i'm buying the 70-200 USM IS II first anyway) I'd just like to hear from people that have used one, or both of these lenses.


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Aug 05, 2012 12:29 |  #2

what are you trying to take pictures of...the longer focal length is good for bugs that could be scared away...you'll want some sort of flash system with either...so plan for that if you don't already have a flash


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Aug 05, 2012 12:44 |  #3

180mm at f/11 when focused at MFD of 19.2" gets 1:1 repro ratio, and the DOF zone is a measly 0.04"
100mm at f/11 when focused at MFD of 11.88" gets 1:1 repro ration also, and the DOF zone is the same measly 0.04"

So unless you can control your body position to +-0.02", you better mount the camera on a tripod or you will likely get out of focus shots.


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Aug 05, 2012 15:20 |  #4

DreDaze wrote in post #14817252 (external link)
what are you trying to take pictures of...the longer focal length is good for bugs that could be scared away...you'll want some sort of flash system with either...so plan for that if you don't already have a flash

Bugs and flowers, mostly.


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Aug 05, 2012 16:20 as a reply to  @ JeremyBlake's post |  #5

IMHO if you are serious about macro you have to use a tripod in any case, I have both and the 100mm is a more versatile lens as it can be used for quite a few applications but if I have to choose one lens for macro it's the 180mm all the way.
That said the image below was with the 180 handheld, but be warned it is heavy ..

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Aug 05, 2012 16:26 |  #6

Both lenses are superb in image quality. I think the 180L is probably a little sharper, but when you get everything right, both are capable of stunning results. The 180L gives you more working distance, which can be handy for especially skittish subjects. The longer focal length is much more demanding on camera shake though. The 1/focal length rule doesn't apply at close focusing range. I do still use it hand held though. The 180L is considerably bigger and heavier than the 100. I would say that for general macro use the 100 is great, especially considering the relative cost of the two, but if you feel you need the longer reach you certainly won't be disappointed by the 180L


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Aug 05, 2012 17:03 |  #7

Thanks everybody. Lots of good feedback.


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Aug 05, 2012 19:33 |  #8

Cassiedup wrote in post #14818045 (external link)
That said the image below was with the 180 handheld

cool shot...exif says 252mm for some reason...


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Aug 05, 2012 23:03 |  #9

I have the 100L, and use it handheld a lot. If you want to get repeatable sharp handheld shots nearing 1:1, you definitely need a flash. The IS gets more helpful as you move away, and makes a noticeable difference for near macro (say, 1:2, which is only about 4 cm further away than MFD), so that I can get usable handheld natural light shots at those sorts of magnifications.

That being said, in natural light I use a tripod whenever I can - it's just nice to have IS to be able to take handheld shots.


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Aug 05, 2012 23:51 |  #10

DreDaze wrote in post #14818706 (external link)
cool shot...exif says 252mm for some reason...

Oops.. forgot to mention I use a 1.4 converter on it a lot of the time to avoid intruding on skittish subjects.


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Aug 06, 2012 09:57 |  #11

I have the 100mmL Macro. The 180 intrigues me, but since the 100L has IS and it is a bit faster, it is a very useful tele prime as well. Plus, the 100 is lighter and easier to hand hold.


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Aug 06, 2012 13:44 |  #12

100 is also a good fl for portraits on your 5D.


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