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Aug 04, 2012 16:14 |  #16

SunshineRose wrote in post #14812553 (external link)
I am confused about which lens to buy as well - I want to do macro as well as general photography. Had my heart set on the 100mm, but have read a review today stating that the 100mm is not a great one for macro, instead they would go for the 180mm. It is the only negative review I have read about the 100mm so am at a loss.

I don't understand this statement at all. Focal length is more a matter of what you will be shooting, an overly simple definition would be a 60mm macro would work well for jewelry, a 100mm macro would be a good all around focal length a 180mm macro would work well for extremely skitish creatures that won't let you get very close, remember I said overly simplistic, there is allot of room for crossover with all of those focal lengths I would say the 100mm focal length is the most popular focal length for macro shooting. I don't know who wrote the review but you either misread it or the author if full of crap.


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Aug 06, 2012 10:04 |  #17

Pretty much all macro lenses are excellent. It really comes down to which focal length you need and/or your budget! Who said the 100s aren't good? Link? I agree with Larry. My 100mm may well be my best lens, and I haven't had any bad Canon lenses.

Also, when reading reviews, I tend to look for a pattern. If there is one bad review out of many good, I feel safe ignoring that bad one.


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Aug 06, 2012 12:07 |  #18

SunshineRose wrote in post #14812553 (external link)
I am confused about which lens to buy as well - I want to do macro as well as general photography. Had my heart set on the 100mm, but have read a review today stating that the 100mm is not a great one for macro, instead they would go for the 180mm. It is the only negative review I have read about the 100mm so am at a loss.

I wouldn't suggest the 180mm for anyone starting out with macro. It's AF tends to be a bit tempermental and is deathly slow and can be extremely challenging/frustratin​g for people picking it up for the first time. It can produce incredible images, but I actually only use it for portrait work every once in a while and stick to the MP-E or 100mm for macro stuff. I certainly wouldn't put much weight on that review you read.


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Aug 06, 2012 15:50 |  #19

Ok I also am getting the but to do this. I have 3 prime lens, 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8 and 135mm 2.0L, can any of these be used for macro? I do need a flash for sure, is extension tubes a must also?


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Aug 06, 2012 19:05 |  #20

Eric_Lopotosky wrote in post #14822319 (external link)
Ok I also am getting the but to do this. I have 3 prime lens, 50mm 1.4, 85mm 1.8 and 135mm 2.0L, can any of these be used for macro? I do need a flash for sure, is extension tubes a must also?

Extension tubes can be a decent substitute for a dedicated macro lens and will be most effective on the shorter focal length lenses. A few Kenko tubes or such would work well on your 50mm or 85mm.


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Aug 07, 2012 07:23 |  #21

There is no substitute for the 100mm 2.8. I am in the market now. IF just dipping feet..Why not to with the 500d filter for your 24/70?


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Aug 07, 2012 11:46 |  #22

If you are referring to the 500D two element closeup lens, it has been on back order for over a year and nobody seems to know if Canon will continue to make this product. There are a few 52MM ones around. I have heard the two element Marumi closeup lenses are pretty good but neither the Canon or Marumi will get you to lifesize.


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Aug 07, 2012 15:33 |  #23

Larry Weinman wrote in post #14826046 (external link)
If you are referring to the 500D two element closeup lens, it has been on back order for over a year and nobody seems to know if Canon will continue to make this product. There are a few 52MM ones around. I have heard the two element Marumi closeup lenses are pretty good but neither the Canon or Marumi will get you to lifesize.

Oh I know about the infinite backorder lol. I was going to try getting one to dabble with the macro thing. I came to the conclusion if you want 1:1..... The 100MM 2.8 is the ticket. AND I made the mistake of playing with it at the store. Now I must have it. I did think the 500D was a viable option for someone who didnt want to spend a TON of money and had the 24-70 L which I believe the OP said he had. I didnt hear that they might not make it anymore which kinda stinks. I didnt even entertain other options after a hands on with the 2.8.


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Aug 07, 2012 17:35 |  #24

Yes, I do have the 24-70 but if the 500D Filter is illusive, I am thinking I oughtn't to count on finding it. I'm considering the 100mm suggested.


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Aug 09, 2012 17:24 |  #25

SunshineRose wrote in post #14812553 (external link)
I am confused about which lens to buy as well - I want to do macro as well as general photography. Had my heart set on the 100mm, but have read a review today stating that the 100mm is not a great one for macro, instead they would go for the 180mm. It is the only negative review I have read about the 100mm so am at a loss.

The 180mm lens will provide a longer working distance so, it is possible that you may not frighten the "creepie crawlies" you are shooting and you might be able to have more flexibility in lighting the shot.

But, the 180mm lenses are also heavier and more expensive.

However a 90-105mm macro is, IMO, a great compromise between a 50-60mm macro and the 180mm lens. You get decent working distance, relative light weight and mid-range cost.

BTW: If you are shooting with the same format size at say a 1:1 image ratio, the DOF of a 50mm, 60mm, 80mm, 100mm, 105mm and 180mm will be the same. The only difference will be the lens to subject distance...


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Aug 09, 2012 17:44 |  #26

Ursie wrote in post #14827485 (external link)
Yes, I do have the 24-70 but if the 500D Filter is illusive, I am thinking I oughtn't to count on finding it. I'm considering the 100mm suggested.

I think if you try it.... It will be no contest.


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Aug 10, 2012 22:30 |  #27

Well shoot, I had made up my mind and then realized I was looking at the price for the standard 100 rather than the L. Will have to reevaluate. Rereading this post! Thanks for all the feed back everyone. I plan to spend some time just perusing the images and see if I can't be inspired to cough up the grand!


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Aug 11, 2012 23:12 |  #28

Your gear list shows you having a 50 f/1.4. I have been having great luck using a very cheap reverse adapter to attach the lens backward. At $2.20, it could be a cheap way to dip your toe in without spending much money.

http://www.ebay.com …lders&hash=item​1c29f358e5 (external link)

You lose AF and the ability to set your aperture, of course. However, you can set the aperture by attaching the lens normally, setting your desired aperture, pressing and holding the DOF preview button while removing the lens.

This is what I've been able to produce in two outings:
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1214707
https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1216811

Nothing too crazy, but much better than I expected.


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Aug 13, 2012 17:21 |  #29

^ Hmf...looks pretty good for a few dollar mod to existing gear.


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Aug 13, 2012 18:50 |  #30

so are you saying you use a 58mm reverse adapter for a 50mm lens. Is that something you can do with any lens? What about focusing distance? how is that affected?


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