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POLL: "Which lens should I rent for Italy to compliment the ones I have?"
Canon EF 14mm f/2.8L II
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Canon EF 16-35mm f/2.8L II
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Canon EF 24mm f/1.4 L II
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Zeiss 21mm f/2.8 Distagon T* ZE
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14L II, 16-35L, 24L II, Zeiss 21 Distagon?

 
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Aug 06, 2012 16:41 |  #31

David Arbogast wrote in post #14822466 (external link)
I like the 24mm f/1.4L II as a best fit for your vacation.

Want to see what vacations to Italy look like at 24mm? Check out these fantastic shots: http://www.fredmiranda​.com …965/0?keyword=2​4#10545137 (external link) They were shot with the Nikon 24mm, but the Canon and Nikon 24mm f/1.4 lenses are well-matched (although I like the rendering of the Nikon a tad more).

hmmmmm, very interesting. Although, most of those shots look like I'd be able to pull off w/ my 35L if I took a few steps back for the exception of the indoor church shot. I was debating whether to buy the 24 or the 35 and pulled the trigger on the 35.

I have noticed I'm using my 24-105 a lot less now having the 35. I will probably buy a 24 down the line and replace my 24-105 since I don't use the longer focal range much. When I do, I typically use my 70-200. I just hate the idea of not having one "all-around" lens for when I can't lug a bunch of lenses somewhere :-)


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Aug 06, 2012 16:45 |  #32

The 21 is a fabulous lens but best for landscapes due to second order distortions; namely mustache distortion in the top corners. I jut picked up a Zeiss 25/2 which is quite nice.




  
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Aug 06, 2012 16:59 |  #33

jetcode wrote in post #14822536 (external link)
I jut picked up a Zeiss 25/2 which is quite nice.

I love my Zeiss 2/25! :D No freaky mustache distortions with that! I feel 24-25mm is a perfect focal length for architecture, especially in potentially tight streetscapes where backing up just isn't feasible.


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Aug 06, 2012 17:31 |  #34

thegfxman wrote in post #14821739 (external link)
I've been debating the same thing. Do I sell the 24-105 and the 17-40 to fund a 16-35 II? it's a tough call because the 24-105 is great when I can only have one lens and don't feel like or can't switch lenses. plus, the image stabilization is pretty nice

Similar situation for me. I have a 50D that I use with a 17-55 f/2.8. I have a 17-40 that I use on a 5D II for ultra-wide. I've considered selling both of those lenses to get a 16-35 II that I would share between both cameras. Even though it's not my most used lens, I've never really considered selling the 24-105 because it is very convenient on the 5D when I need it.


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Aug 06, 2012 23:50 |  #35

The 24mm f1.4 for its ability to capture landscapes as well as portraits.


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Aug 07, 2012 08:16 |  #36

If you need speed, get a fast prime. While the 16-35L II is a nice lens, it is hardly fast when it counts. For optimal performance you'll have to stop down anyway.


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Aug 07, 2012 11:06 |  #37

David Arbogast wrote in post #14822466 (external link)
I like the 24mm f/1.4L II as a best fit for your vacation.

Want to see what vacations to Italy look like at 24mm? Check out these fantastic shots: http://www.fredmiranda​.com …965/0?keyword=2​4#10545137 (external link) They were shot with the Nikon 24mm, but the Canon and Nikon 24mm f/1.4 lenses are well-matched (although I like the rendering of the Nikon a tad more).


Love these images, I just need a nice vacation spot to use it :-}


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Aug 07, 2012 11:30 |  #38

I had my 24L II in Italy for the wide side, and found I could have gone a little wider, so if I were going back again tomorrow I'd definitely take the 16-35. The 24L worked wonderfully though, so I have no complaints. Night handheld shots were a breeze, but 90% of my shooting was during the day, and the 16-35 would have been perfect.

Minimum kit, I'd take:

16-35
50mm prime for night shooting (or 35mm prime, depending on your taste)

If you have room and want to carry the weight, definitely add:

24-105


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Aug 07, 2012 12:26 |  #39

MatthewK wrote in post #14825993 (external link)
I had my 24L II in Italy for the wide side, and found I could have gone a little wider, so if I were going back again tomorrow I'd definitely take the 16-35. The 24L worked wonderfully though, so I have no complaints. Night handheld shots were a breeze, but 90% of my shooting was during the day, and the 16-35 would have been perfect.

Minimum kit, I'd take:

16-35
50mm prime for night shooting (or 35mm prime, depending on your taste)

If you have room and want to carry the weight, definitely add:

24-105

did you use telephoto at all? my 70-200 is pretty light but wondering if I should lug that or the 24-105. were the shots you felt you missed indoors (i.e. churches) or outdoors where you couldn't back up anymore?


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Aug 07, 2012 12:41 |  #40

as you know, I have a similar trip coming up.

don't think I'll want a tele lens for europe. I want to carry less weight, smaller lenses, leave the longer/heavy lenses at home, have fun, and get some cool wide angle and general shots.

we have similar kits.
I'm going with 35L for night.
24-105 for day. is will come in handy.
and 16-35 (your 17-40) for the odd WA shots


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Aug 07, 2012 13:24 |  #41

thegfxman wrote in post #14826192 (external link)
did you use telephoto at all? my 70-200 is pretty light but wondering if I should lug that or the 24-105. were the shots you felt you missed indoors (i.e. churches) or outdoors where you couldn't back up anymore?

I had with me the 24L, 50L and 24-105, but the zoom was used by my then-girlfriend almost the entire trip (I think I have like 10 photos using the zoom). The 24mm got the most use, it made for a great walk around; the streets are rather tight, and most of what you'll want to shoot is wider angle stuff: architecture, street-scapes, etc. The 50 served well as the "tele" lens, letting me get closer in on details, as well as people shots. Had I taken the 70-200, I couldn't see myself using it all that frequently, and the bag was at about the max I'd want to carry w/ the 2 primes + 5D2.

I didn't find myself missing shots w/ the 24mm per-say, but I could have gone wider than 24mm and been very happy. There is just so much detail to take in, in such a cramped area haha The thing is, the wider you go past 24 f/1.4, the slower the lens, so my indoor shots/ night shots wouldn't have turned out as well. It's a tough choice: more versatility + less speed, or fixed FL + more speed.

One example: Trevi Fountain in Rome. Very cramped area (especially at night), the 24mm got the fountain and pool ok, but I was constrained enough to where I couldn't get the fountain + building + crowd in the shot. 16mm would have made easy work of that shot! Another place that begs for wide angle: Vatican.

Tuscany was about the only place where I wanted something longer than 105, but I was only there for an afternoon, so it was a very small portion of the trip!

Dj R wrote in post #14826241 (external link)
as you know, I have a similar trip coming up.

don't think I'll want a tele lens for europe. I want to carry less weight, smaller lenses, leave the longer/heavy lenses at home, have fun, and get some cool wide angle and general shots.

we have similar kits.
I'm going with 35L for night.
24-105 for day. is will come in handy.
and 16-35 (your 17-40) for the odd WA shots

I like your kit choice, easy to carry + very versatile. Please share some shots when you get back!


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Aug 07, 2012 19:32 |  #42

MatthewK wrote in post #14826437 (external link)
I had with me the 24L, 50L and 24-105, but the zoom was used by my then-girlfriend almost the entire trip (I think I have like 10 photos using the zoom). The 24mm got the most use, it made for a great walk around; the streets are rather tight, and most of what you'll want to shoot is wider angle stuff: architecture, street-scapes, etc. The 50 served well as the "tele" lens, letting me get closer in on details, as well as people shots. Had I taken the 70-200, I couldn't see myself using it all that frequently, and the bag was at about the max I'd want to carry w/ the 2 primes + 5D2.

I didn't find myself missing shots w/ the 24mm per-say, but I could have gone wider than 24mm and been very happy. There is just so much detail to take in, in such a cramped area haha The thing is, the wider you go past 24 f/1.4, the slower the lens, so my indoor shots/ night shots wouldn't have turned out as well. It's a tough choice: more versatility + less speed, or fixed FL + more speed.

One example: Trevi Fountain in Rome. Very cramped area (especially at night), the 24mm got the fountain and pool ok, but I was constrained enough to where I couldn't get the fountain + building + crowd in the shot. 16mm would have made easy work of that shot! Another place that begs for wide angle: Vatican.

Tuscany was about the only place where I wanted something longer than 105, but I was only there for an afternoon, so it was a very small portion of the trip!

I like your kit choice, easy to carry + very versatile. Please share some shots when you get back!

very interesting! great points


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Aug 07, 2012 20:13 |  #43

I bet we could bring the wide angle zoom and a 35 and be done with it. Zoom for day. 35 for night.


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Aug 07, 2012 20:18 |  #44

I took my 14L and never used it. I did the whole trip with zeiss 50 and 18


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Aug 08, 2012 10:13 |  #45

I like the images from the Zeiss slightly better but for a vacation walk around lens I would go 16-35. It is more than competent for tripod landscape shots and the extra 5mm is just enough wider to make a difference especially if you are in buildings or want to capture a whole scene.

I sold my 16-35 for the Zeiss since I was using it just for landscapes but ended up missing the AF and got a 35L to compliment it.

I say 16-35 II


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