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Jul 27, 2012 19:43 |  #61

I agree with both nuffi and jdizzle on their last posts.

There aren't enough change from the Mark II to the Mark III for me to feel like I'm getting any value.

I'm probably one of the easiest consumers to prey on too. I bought 5 600EXs just for the RF. So if Canon can't convince me to upgrade from a Mark II to a Mark III, I have to think there are others who feel the same.


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Jul 27, 2012 20:57 |  #62

SunTsu wrote in post #14779498 (external link)
I agree with both nuffi and jdizzle on their last posts.

There aren't enough change from the Mark II to the Mark III for me to feel like I'm getting any value.

I'm probably one of the easiest consumers to prey on too. I bought 5 600EXs just for the RF. So if Canon can't convince me to upgrade from a Mark II to a Mark III, I have to think there are others who feel the same.

I still have my 1Ds MK III and it's been reliable since day one. Yeah, the 5D III has improvements as far as FPS, ISO, 61 point AF, etc. but, it's not enough for me to bite. :)




  
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Jul 27, 2012 21:51 |  #63

SunTsu wrote in post #14779498 (external link)
I agree with both nuffi and jdizzle on their last posts.

There aren't enough change from the Mark II to the Mark III for me to feel like I'm getting any value.

I'm probably one of the easiest consumers to prey on too. I bought 5 600EXs just for the RF. So if Canon can't convince me to upgrade from a Mark II to a Mark III, I have to think there are others who feel the same.

I won't be biting on the 5D3, not enough there for the money to get me to open my wallet.




  
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Jul 27, 2012 22:15 |  #64

I must admit that I almost bought the 5D3 because of the new AF system, but after some testing I realized that the improved AF was the only real point of interest for me. :)

Right now I am patiently awaiting the "true sucessor" of the 5D2 (a.k.a Canon's real answer to the D800), however there is one thing that worries me. Currently it looks like Canon is more than ready to produce a sensor with high MP, but not necessarily with high DR and impressive shadow pushing capabilities.

DR is just as important as the megapixels, esp on a high MP body. I'm afraid that Canon will miss the point.




  
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Jul 28, 2012 01:48 |  #65

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.......DR is just as important as the megapixels, esp on a high MP body. I'm afraid that Canon will miss the point.

Canon have been quoted in the past as saying they intend to improve DR.

However they do quote absurd DR figures for cameras already, figures that have no practical use but have been measured in artificial laboratory conditions. When I see a "real" 8 stop DR I will start celebrating. To get that real 8 stops, the lab would probably be claiming 20 stops.


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Jul 31, 2012 03:05 as a reply to  @ Lowner's post |  #66

Do you guys think that Canon shall make an 1/3 crop ped version of the 1DX?
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Jul 31, 2012 03:12 |  #67

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Do you guys think that Canon shall make an 1/3 crop ped version of the 1DX?
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Only my guess, but I doubt it given what they have said in the past.


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Aug 06, 2012 16:22 |  #68

Canon could get high DR from their existing analog readout CMOS sensor architecture, I'm positive. Just easier and cheaper to do it with on-chip ADCs. Getting high DR, high speed readout for live view/video, is probably difficult/pricey.


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Aug 07, 2012 03:24 |  #69

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Canon could get high DR from their existing analog readout CMOS sensor architecture, I'm positive. Just easier and cheaper to do it with on-chip ADCs. Getting high DR, high speed readout for live view/video, is probably difficult/pricey.

Woos,

I'd very happily live without the high speed video if Canon have a problem there. They deserve problems for concentrating on video and not DR in the past. Nikon have stolen a march on them and no mistake.

Video is best left for video cameras.


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Aug 07, 2012 03:51 |  #70

Lowner wrote in post #14824704 (external link)
Woos,

I'd very happily live without the high speed video if Canon have a problem there. They deserve problems for concentrating on video and not DR in the past. Nikon have stolen a march on them and no mistake.

Video is best left for video cameras.

Which is why one of Nikons biggest achievements with their newest cameras is.......

Wait For It

1080p Video

This argument is a dead horse walking, sorry.


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Aug 07, 2012 04:02 |  #71

Jay,

So Nikon have stolen a march on Canon every which way with the D800? Canon have gone bye byes for a few years. Its time to wake up now, up you get Canon.

I have not yet given up waiting, because Canon traditionally are always last, but in the past its been all the better for it.


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Aug 09, 2012 06:00 |  #72

Barely had time to fool around with mine due to working late this week. But what I want to try out is some macro video with my 100mm or my mp-e 65mm. Searching the net I haven't seen much entertaining video out there from the 1dx yet. A few are out there (model in bikini in slow motion, dark urban scenes, horses, county fair, etc.) but most are test clips. Let's get out there and show what awesome Canon lenses crossed with an incredible video camera can do!


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Aug 09, 2012 06:50 |  #73

Lowner wrote in post #14824704 (external link)
Video is best left for video cameras.

I'm currently working on a television documentary for Animal Planet where one of he camera guys is filming using a 5D2, issued by the production company. The other film maker just bought my 5D2 to use along size his other dedicated film cameras. Times have changed


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Sep 23, 2012 05:19 |  #74

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I'm currently working on a television documentary for Animal Planet where one of he camera guys is filming using a 5D2, issued by the production company. The other film maker just bought my 5D2 to use along size his other dedicated film cameras. Times have changed

The rumours about a 40 something mp (46 MP has been mentioned) Canon are that it will only offer the bare minimum video options. Instead it is said to be high DR, low fps, moderate ISO etc. In other words exactly what I need. Nikon have made Canon look very stupid recently.


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Sep 23, 2012 05:26 |  #75

Jahled wrote in post #14834806 (external link)
I'm currently working on a television documentary for Animal Planet where one of he camera guys is filming using a 5D2, issued by the production company. The other film maker just bought my 5D2 to use along size his other dedicated film cameras. Times have changed


That's true and it always will in this and other fields.

Who would have thought of the rumoured 46.1MP 5Dx being presented in an 1D shell?


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Canon forged ahead with video believing an opening there and not without justification. I'm not concerned as long as they allocate the necessary resources to looking after the still togs!!!


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