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Is this child portrait photo good enough to sell?

 
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May 06, 2006 03:40 |  #31

just a quick thanxs for all you votes and comments, 'm still not 100%convinced i have what it takes to make the plunge just yet, but thanx to your comments and votes i certainly feel alot more confident and my will to keep trying remains ever greater.
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May 06, 2006 05:31 |  #32

You've got the most important part absolutally right- you've caught her happy mood and it's all very photogenic.
You would probably want to improve some minor details like having the hair abit neater and avoid the shaddows around her eye,etc .But you've got your priorities right - get shots that parents will love first and work on technical details second.Too many pro's get those the wrong way 'round i think




  
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May 06, 2006 06:21 |  #33

Just offer a satisfaction guaranteed policy. Done, ready to go into business.


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May 07, 2006 04:34 as a reply to  @ ron chappel's post |  #34

ron chappel wrote:
You've got the most important part absolutally right- you've caught her happy mood and it's all very photogenic.
You would probably want to improve some minor details like having the hair abit neater and avoid the shaddows around her eye,etc .But you've got your priorities right - get shots that parents will love first and work on technical details second.Too many pro's get those the wrong way 'round i think

thanx Ron your words are much appreciated, i gonna shoot a few more today and i hope that i can see an improvement in the general tidyness in the shots,i'll post a couple of them so you can judge for yourself.

many thanx


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May 07, 2006 07:20 as a reply to  @ post 1470038 |  #35

Please accept my humbelest apolgies for editing your picture

But the reason for this is that i voted No. I dont pretend to be the best Photographer however in order to tell wether you could sell an image or not
You need to ask the public.. ie try selling it..

If you ask Photographers youll only get there precived impression which is only personel opinion. Unfortunatly this is sometimes not an objective impression as in my case I would not try to sell the picture as is.

That does not mean that to the uninitiated it might be a great shot it just means to me it needs more work.

I cropped the Picture first

I created a new layer and created a slight Vignette Opacity 18%

I used Curves to increase the highlights

I Dodged the left side of her face

I Put a catch light in her left Eye.

Keep it up. If you can crack the kids market the skys the limit but theres plenty of good guy out there doing kids.

You have to provide something special, to bring something new to the market
Dont give up keep practicing.


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May 07, 2006 08:06 |  #36

I prefer the original - what's the black line over her right eye?

I voted yes - nice shot.




  
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May 07, 2006 08:27 as a reply to  @ Paul Gerrard's post |  #37

thanx paul gerrard for your views, many people have pointed out the same failings, i think in a real shoot i could iron out most of the problems directly without too much photoshop, one of my main issues is to how far i would need to take the element of making the model more pleasing to the eye through photoshop i.e, bags under eyes, softening a nose, removing a double chin, i accept possibly editing freckles and achne if asked, but is it standard procedure to do this, i always beleived a portrait must be a true representation of the model, at what point does it become modern art?

i've posted this image from the same shoot as the started thread, as far as i can see the only editing required is to remove the unwanted stray hair and possibly (the bags under here eyes?) i have a nice smile, i have the catch lights in both eyes, both sides of the face a well lit, i think the crop works well, pose in nothing special but okay, back ground nice and bright as planed, cardigan alittle hot in places.

what else does it need to qualify as a basic £10 per 8x10 print child studio portrait?


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May 07, 2006 09:51 as a reply to  @ deedspender's post |  #38

Depending on where in the uk you are but in the south of England you can easyly sell that image for £15 in a 10x8 format, and I like the original better than the edited one.

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May 07, 2006 09:53 |  #39

Yes as a mommy wanting pictures taking of my child I would buy this

To be honest I really like the original much better than Paul Gerrard's edit, the edit looks too edited, if you know what I mean, not natural anymore.


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May 07, 2006 16:12 as a reply to  @ deedspender's post |  #40

Now i like the second image a lot more its\ a Yes


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May 07, 2006 16:15 as a reply to  @ Paul Gerrard's post |  #41

Paul Gerrard wrote:
Now i like the second image a lot more its\ a Yes

cheers paul, much appreciated!!


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May 10, 2006 09:27 |  #42

thanx to every one who voted in this poll and to those who helped so much with there replies, i am over the moon with 74% positive, hell of a long way to go but you encouragement and critique are helping me to get there!

cheers very much Declan


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May 11, 2006 04:26 |  #43

Don't like B&W.
But the photo is nice.


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May 11, 2006 04:29 |  #44

Surely what decides if something is “Good enough to sell” is if someone is prepared to buy it


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May 11, 2006 12:09 as a reply to  @ neil_r's post |  #45

neil_r wrote:
Surely what decides if something is “Good enough to sell” is if someone is prepared to buy it

hi, sorry you may have missed the change in poll question.
i needed a diffrent perspective as the question states highlighted in red at the start of this post, as i am the photographer and the girl is my daughter i'm not really interested in buying my own photo:)


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