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Aug 11, 2012 13:18 |  #1

One of my most wanted features for Canon's next generation of primes is IS!

The more I photograph in low light, the more I regret that lenses like the:
35 f/1.4L
85 f/1.2L II
14 f/2.8L II
24 f/1.4L II
50 f/1.2L
135 f/2L
don't have IS

I know some photographers out there think that you don't NEED IS for fast primes lenses, but unfortunately I have results that prove that IS is the difference between getting shots and missing shots

e.g.

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Aug 11, 2012 13:20 |  #2

Was your subject walking when you took that picture?


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Aug 11, 2012 13:20 |  #3

If you are shooting wide open or near there, you should get decent shutter speeds. At night if the shutter speeds arn't enough, boost your ISO until they are. Fast primes for me result in a nice fast SS safety net - isnt that a reason why IS on a fast prime isnt really necessary? Besides that, adding IS on any of the above lenses will increase their price into the ridiculous zone (85LII especially, :lol:)

To me it looks like the person moved - IS doesn't compensate for subject movement, only yours.


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Aug 11, 2012 13:22 |  #4

No they were static,

ISO 1600 pushed to 3200 in post
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Aug 11, 2012 13:24 as a reply to  @ smorter's post |  #5

I can't help but agree with you.


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Aug 11, 2012 13:26 |  #6

Well I would have bumped the iso up to compensate. I know IS is nice and all but the price increases that come with it aren't. The 85 1.2 is already a very expensive prime I'm not sure what it would cost for a new version of it with IS!


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Aug 11, 2012 13:30 |  #7

I think that if the trend of lenses geared towards video continues, you'll start to see faster primes with IS included.


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Aug 11, 2012 13:38 |  #8

IS is great and all but like others have mentioned... price.




  
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Aug 11, 2012 13:47 |  #9

People aren't statues, and so even if 1/25 might work for a wall hanging or a painting with IS, it won't necessarily work on a person.
If shooting photos of kids, higher shutter speeds are even more important.
I find that I don't need IS for shorter focal lengths if stuff isn't moving. For longer focal lengths, IS becomes even more helpful to compensate for my own movement, but it won't help with subject movement. I like IS, but it matters and helps more on longer lenses.




  
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Aug 11, 2012 13:58 |  #10

doesn't the 5D iii go to like 1,000,000 ISO....


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Aug 11, 2012 14:43 |  #11

Image stabilization is useful any time the shutter speed is less than 1/focal length. Doesn't matter if it is a prime, a zoom, an ultra wide, or a telephoto. It performs the same function on all lenses.


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Aug 11, 2012 14:54 |  #12

Manufacturing better sensor technology is often better than adding IS to large aperture lenses.
There are cost and size limitation.

85L II is huge and heavy, not sure how much more weight will IS add to it. The price will definitely go up by $500+
Honestly, I am pretty sure if you capture the photo with 1/100 sec 6400 ISO at F1.2, you won't notice any noise on the new 5D iii.
Plus there's noise reduction.

Sensor technology is getting so much better these days, IS is really unnecessary unless for video. Large aperture is for sure will always to be needed for bokeh.


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Aug 11, 2012 15:06 as a reply to  @ cfvisuals's post |  #13

Is IS needed, no! Could/would it be useful, you betcha!


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Aug 11, 2012 15:11 |  #14

1/25 was definitely the problem.
personally I would have underexposed that shot by 1 stop to get 1/50 of speed


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Aug 11, 2012 15:43 |  #15

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One of my most wanted features for Canon's next generation of primes is IS!

The more I photograph in low light, the more I regret that lenses like the:
35 f/1.4L
85 f/1.2L II
14 f/2.8L II
24 f/1.4L II
50 f/1.2L
135 f/2L
don't have IS

I know some photographers out there think that you don't NEED IS for fast primes lenses, but unfortunately I have results that prove that IS is the difference between getting shots and missing shots

Totally agree.

My 100L has nudged out my 135L as my go to event telephoto prime because it has IS. There are many lighting situations where tripods are difficult to use, and I want wide aperture blur, low ISO quality, and flash is out of the question.


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