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1 Camera 1 Lens, 10 days in China. Good or bad idea?

 
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Aug 14, 2012 20:02 |  #31

pdx, took a quick gander at your flickr. I see you have very little uwa photos. The uwa lens would really let you see a world in a different perspective compared to a typical look you would get using a 24mm on a 1.6 crop camera.

a recent alaska trip I did use my PL 25 f/1.4 alot with my OM-d M43 camera and 5dmk2 with 16-35Lmk2. I got incredible results using my Olympus w/ killer 50mm equiv prime. your 24-105 will give you great versatility with normal perspective. I do prefer uwa and get "normal" perspective using 35mm with 16-35L.

I wouldn't be caught dead using a 50mm prime only. You'll miss alot of photographic opportunities being limited to the 50mm perspective.


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Aug 14, 2012 20:04 |  #32

Although it's tempting to want to bring all your gear and try to cover every conceivable situation you can, keeping it simple has some benefits. You don't have to worry about lens changes (risk of dust entering body, risk of someone bumping you and causing gear to be dropped/broken if you do lens changes). You don't have to think about what lens is right for the situation because you only have one option, so you just think about how to work with the lens you have mounted.

When I travel, I decide before leaving if I'll be comfortable leaving any gear in the hotel room or not and then pack accordingly. If I bring everything, I bring two bags. A large one for everything and a small one. Then I usually pick one or two lenses and use the smaller bag each day. Sometimes I'll pick just the Voigtlander 40mm or the Canon 85mm and use nothing but that lens for the day. There have been times where I could not frame a shot I wanted due to limiting myself to a single lens. But I take the attitude that I'll capture what I can, and not stress over what I cannot.

I would be surprised if you only took one lens and then after the trip reported back there that you missed a shot that you are just crushed you couldn't get.

I've only had one photo that I didn't take that I regret, and it was not due to the wrong focal length. It was more because I was caught up in the moment and didn't think about taking a picture. It was an interaction with people from another country on the street while visiting Burlington, Vermont. Something that cannot ever be repeated. And it was the emotion of the moment that caused me to not to get a picture. It would have been nice to have taken a picture, but it's actually a moment that I will never forget even without photographic evidence. It just would have been nice to have shared the moment with my extended family after the trip.

I'd definitely bring the Panasonic too and use it when you don't want to be seen using a big DSLR.

I've been reading up on Street Photography lately. And it seems like a smaller camera is just less noticed when doing Street shooting. I've been toying with an EOS 3 film camera. And now I'm interested in picking up a Zeiss Ikon or Voigtlander film rangefinder (Leica is way more than my budget allows).

Whatever you decide, have a fun and safe trip.


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Aug 14, 2012 20:26 |  #33

I'm on vacation in vietnam, and my kit is a 24-70, 50, 580ex, 2 batteries, 2 CF, small travel tripod, and Lowepro 160 ex. I wear the camera bag like a sling and have been shooting from bag the whole time, and love it. It's quick as heck to pull out the camera, shoot and back in storage, with the top cover folded back. The 50 has taken some great shots, but if I were to do it over again, I'de ditch the 50 AND the 580ex. I would have missed may 2 or 3 very low light shots out of the few hundred keepers so far.

I also have a DIY stealth messenger I used to carry all of my gear and passport, which has been extremely useful. I do alternate bags on occasion... traveling super light, then lowepro, traveling with a bit of supplies and/or tripod, then messenger bag.

a few scenarios where the 50 would have struggled:
in a wine cave
on the mountain tops of Ba Na Hills
at the beach (even the 24-70 didnt have enough reach)
street shooting scenarios where 24mm seems narrow


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Aug 14, 2012 20:30 as a reply to  @ post 14858188 |  #34

My last trip to China was to Beijing in Dec 2009. Always thought it's generally pretty safe in China(think the law is really strict). I'd suggest bringing the 16-35 as your only lens, as the landscape in China is pretty spectacular and the cities really crowded. 35mm isn't that different from 50mm, so you can crop if you can't get close enough.


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Aug 14, 2012 21:43 |  #35

5D3, 16-35, and 24-105. Bump up the ISO for low light. Better to carry insured kit around then not to have it and miss out on opportunities for great pictures and captured memories. How often do you go to Hong Kong and China anyway? You bought your gear for purposes like this, no?




  
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Aug 14, 2012 22:03 |  #36

If it were me, I'd take the 16-35mm L and the 50mm L. Hong Kong is all about wide angle. I only have primes, and my widest lens, a 24mm, was all I used. The 50 would be useful in low light situations and portraits if you get the chance.

That's just my humble opinion.


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Aug 15, 2012 00:01 as a reply to  @ Dillan_K's post |  #37

Bring it all.

You are a photographer. This is why you bought all of that gear, right?

I always say, gear is for using.

The memory of lugging around heavy gear fades fast. The pictures last forever.


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Aug 15, 2012 00:18 |  #38

DreDaze wrote in post #14857764 (external link)
I wouldn't do it...but I guess it depends on how often you'll be in china- id think the 5D iii, 24-105L and 50L would fit in a smaller bag to take everywhere

This would be my vote, as well. You should be able to fit those in a small enough bag for it to not be a chore to carry/keep with you.


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Aug 15, 2012 00:23 |  #39

DreDaze wrote in post #14858892 (external link)
cameras can go with you with everything you do...it's not like they're huge, and you can easily take them with you with a small bag...why not document your amazing trip...


Oh I'd bring my camera. I'm merely offering counter point... I went to Hawaii for the first time ever recently, and I did not use mine as much as I'd thought.

And not all cameras are huge, but my 1Ds isn't exactly pocket sized with a 50L on it.. I DO march in parades where I am playing my baritone sax with my 1Ds on shoulder...


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Aug 15, 2012 00:39 |  #40

16-35L, 35L, or 24L.


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Aug 15, 2012 06:05 |  #41

For me, the best deal would be to take 24-105 and 35L / 50L - due to preferences.

It's always nice to travel with olny one lens, but for me 50 mm doesn't suit for that. It's great for portrait, but not travel. I'm choosing the 35mm :-)


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Aug 15, 2012 09:17 |  #42

Thank you all again for the comments and suggestions, it really helps a lot.

To answer some of the questions asked. This is actually my first time to China, but it won't be the last either, I'm hoping to go back there again next year, but in a different season. This year, its more of a beginning of Fall, and next year, I'm targeting end of spring or beginning of summer time, but in a different region of China. (China is just too big, so hard to justify going back to the same city)

As for the GX1, I do really like this little camera, but after using it for quite a bit on my last trip to Taiwan I realized that every pic I had taken with it, I wished I was using my DSLR instead. Don't get me wrong, I love this thing, and the reason why I used it was for all the right ones: crowed area, feel unsafe with expensive equipment, weight etc.. But this time, I decided that I was going to force myself to use my DSLR every chance I get, and only use the GX1 when I truly need it.

As for which body to bring, I'm pretty stuck on the 5D3 because my last trip to Taiwan I did a lot of shoots at different famous night markets, and my setup was the 7D with the 16-35 f2.8. My keep rate was really bad.. Since tripod was out of the question, and flash just didn't give me the look I was going for, it was my tipping point for investing in the full frame camera before this trip to China.

At this point I think I agree that even if I was trying to experiment and only shoot with a prime, it would be silly to not at least bring another lens just in case. I might try this sling bag I found that can comfortable carry a camera with a lens attached to it, and second lens on the side, and see if I can fit that into my carry on bag with the laptop. As I wrote in the op, I will be doing a lot of walking and using the public transportation in China with all of my luggage with me, so traveling light and mobile will be my priority.


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Aug 15, 2012 09:38 |  #43

Been to China Many times, with many different setups....I like to bring 3 lenses. A 50mm, an ultrawide and a telephoto. The prime lives on the body as my walk around....When you're in HK, you'll kick yourself if you don't bring the ultra wide and I love hanging in doorways with my telephoto grabbing shots of street vendors and pedestrians.....
And...China is safer than anywhere in the US or Canada, the assault, robbery, rape and murder rates are something like 90+% lower. Just be careful in the train stations and bus terminals...
Most of all...Have fun!! Southern China is AMAZING....Guangxi province in particular is one of my favorite spots on this planet...


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Aug 15, 2012 10:19 |  #44

pdx_btk78 wrote in post #14858494 (external link)
I honestly still like the idea of shooting my entire trip with a single prime lens, it may add an interesting perspective to my trip when I'm looking back at it. However, I totally understand what everyone is saying about "missing" that shot that the 50mm can't get. Decisions!!!

Standing at the top of Victoria Peak in Hong Kong, or shooting the cityscapes from a Hong Kong - Kowloon ferry you really wish you had something much wider than 50mm to catch the beautiful panorama of tall buildings like nowhere else. And then you will want to use a telephoto to shoot some details of that panorama. This is when you will wish you had a telephoto with you! If you want to bring only one lens, the 24-105 should be the one, not the 50.


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Aug 15, 2012 13:16 |  #45

A 50L and 24L would be a better option. But there is nothing that suggest you can't take just the 50L especially if it's not a paid gig. If you can't get the shot you want, take the shot you can and move on.




  
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