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Aug 15, 2012 11:48 |  #46

what's the typical rate from Canon to fix that type of thing?


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Aug 15, 2012 11:54 |  #47

I think for $300 I would go look at it and pop it on your camera to take a few test shots. Bring a Laptop to look at the images. if it is not acceptable then don't do the deal. If it is acceptable to you, then you have a lens for $300. Before you decide though I would contact Canon and ask what it costs to replace the front glass on that lens. This will give you a better idea on what you are investing in.

And as others said above, negotiation before meeting or agreeing to meet is a must because otherwise the seller does have the upper hand. You most likely are not going to meet up only to walk away empty handed.




  
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Aug 15, 2012 12:01 |  #48

Ishoot4fun wrote in post #14861884 (external link)
...so $ 300.00 with scuffed up; or buy new for say $ 800 tax in.
so save 500.00, live with scratches or spend 500.00 more and have brand new; thats assuming the used scuffed lens functions great and everythink works fine.
Dont know what to do,lol..

Or, Canon refurb for ~$700 (external link)
Or, Adorama gray market new for ~$680 (external link)
Or, Adorama used for ~$600 (external link)


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Aug 15, 2012 12:14 |  #49

Ishoot4fun wrote in post #14861884 (external link)
I plan to use this lens with out tripod, or atleast when i get one i plan to use it handheld through out the focal range as i use my 75-300 now handheld but yeah between 200-300 mm its gets crappy imaga quality but that 75-300 is really crappy in image quality to begin with; so I figured a 70-200 would be no problem handheld; but maby i am wrong.

Anymore exsperiences useing the 70-200f4l non is handheld?

also the seller told me he would go as low as $300.00, any lower he said he would rather keep it for a spare lens.
so $ 300.00 with scuffed up; or buy new for say $ 800 tax in.
so save 500.00, live with scratches or spend 500.00 more and have brand new; thats assuming the used scuffed lens functions great and everythink works fine.
Dont know what to do,lol..

No offense to Tom, but plenty of people shoot at 200mm and far beyond hand held (I hand hold my 400mm all the time and 500mm occasionally). I don't see any reason you would need a tripod with that lens unless you have unsteady hands. And hey, for older people that can be a reality and there IS or a tripod is a benefit; just saying. If you can hold your current lens steady at 300mm I don't see how it would be a problem.

Yea, at $300 I would say you could go either way on it. IQ is not likely to be a problem, but if you buy plan on keeping it for a very long time. I wouldn't want to go try and turn around and sell it any time soon.


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Aug 15, 2012 12:15 |  #50

I believe the OP is in Canada.


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Aug 15, 2012 12:31 |  #51

Forget it for $300... it's a "parts lens" in it's present condition and I wouldn't pay more than $200-250 for it. But I would be basing that upon being able to fix it myself and I'd find out from Canon the cost of replacement parts first. I suspect it will cost you another $200 minimum to get it repaired... maybe more. But that's just a guess. You should contact Canon and ask them what the cost would be, be sure to include shipping both ways.

Front element damage like that shows up surprisingly little in images, though... Mostly you'd see increased flare effects. But it might even effect focus accuracy. You can minimize flare by using a lens hood religiously (which would have saved that lens from damage, BTW). Also you can fill front element scratches with black ink from a pen and that will further reduce flare effects. They would have much more negative effect on images if those scratches were on the rear element.

Still, unless you find it's cheaper to repair than I suspect... I'd suggest you pass on this one, keep shopping and see if you can find a good deal on a lens in better condition.

Like any lens, the 70-200mm can be pretty reliably handheld at shutter speeds approx. the reciprocal of the focal length you are using - 1/200 for 200mm - times the crop factor of your camera. So 200 x 1.6 or 1/320 shutter speed if using with an APS-C Canon body. At the 70mm setting, you'd need about 1/125 (70 x 1.6 = 112). Maybe a little slower if you are really good at handholding, or if you aren't good at handholding you might need a little faster.... or might get by with a little slower if using a monopod or a tripod or something else to help hold it steady.


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Aug 15, 2012 15:04 |  #52

For $300 I'd give it a shot- but I wouldn't buy with the intention of sending it to canon- use it, give it a good cleaning, if worst comes to worst and you hate it, put it on eBay. People love messed up lenses there- I'd say at most you'd be out $50

And at best you'd have a perfectly functioning lens with a little battle scar


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Aug 15, 2012 15:23 |  #53

I have often wondered how a scratch or scuff would affect the image quality. Reason I bring this up is I have shot a lot of pics through the chain link back stop at softball and baseball games and the results are great.

I shoot the 70-200 f/2.8 handheld without IS on and it is heavier than the f/4 version...and I am an old fert! :-)

With all that said, I would pass on the lens and save the money for a better one.


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Aug 15, 2012 17:19 |  #54

If new ones sell for around $800, then $300 seems like a good price to me for a blemish that is unlikely to affect image quality. It should be unnoticeable, except perhaps on some occasions with some flare when shooting into the sun. Is it worth it to you to pay double that used for one with the same image quality but that looks nicer externally? Only you can decide.


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Aug 15, 2012 17:58 |  #55

rick_reno wrote in post #14848136 (external link)
i'd suspect other problems with a lens that beat up. there are lots them around, buy another one and don't worry about it.

+1 My thoughts exactly!


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Aug 15, 2012 18:12 as a reply to  @ Billginthekeys's post |  #56

no i wouldn't unless the lens were sold at a considerable discount -- $200 or less -- and then i would flip it on ebay or sell it here.


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Aug 15, 2012 19:29 as a reply to  @ ed rader's post |  #57

Wow i appreciate all the resposes and help.
I am still undecided; i do agree if the glass just has some minor blemishes and light scratches then 300 would be a great deal if it functions as it should and produces great image quality; i am just nervous for the fact that it may have been dropped,
I dont want to spend 800 if i can get this one for 300 that will work the same as the 800 dollar one and have 500 in my pocket, but i dont want to spend 300, and have a crap lens and still have to spend the 800 and be at like 1100 because of my bad jugment.
So i guess it comes down to me either taking a chance or not.
see for me financially 300 would be awesome as i dont have money to spend on camera gear, so i am leaning towards checking out this lens.


IS there any good canadian companys or sites where i can get a good used canon 70-200 LENS at a decent price besides e-bay?


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Aug 15, 2012 19:53 |  #58

$300 may seem cheap, but it could also be expensive for a paper weight. My sense is if someone can't even take care of the front element, he/she can't take care of the rest of the lens. I'd stay away.


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Aug 15, 2012 20:18 |  #59

^^ +1


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Aug 15, 2012 20:31 |  #60

Ishoot4fun wrote in post #14863648 (external link)
Wow i appreciate all the resposes and help.
I am still undecided; i do agree if the glass just has some minor blemishes and light scratches then 300 would be a great deal if it functions as it should and produces great image quality; i am just nervous for the fact that it may have been dropped,
I dont want to spend 800 if i can get this one for 300 that will work the same as the 800 dollar one and have 500 in my pocket, but i dont want to spend 300, and have a crap lens and still have to spend the 800 and be at like 1100 because of my bad jugment.
So i guess it comes down to me either taking a chance or not.
see for me financially 300 would be awesome as i dont have money to spend on camera gear, so i am leaning towards checking out this lens.

IS there any good canadian companys or sites where i can get a good used canon 70-200 LENS at a decent price besides e-bay?

where are you getting that $800 figure? we're talking non-IS lens, aren't we? this lens sells used for $500 or less. i'm pretty sure mine went for about $400 on ebay a few years ago.


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