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robd54
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Aug 16, 2012 10:34 |  #1

Hi all, I just yesterday made the jump from crop (7D) to full frame (5D MK III) and am already blown away by the capabilities and even though I need to save for lenses, I'm already dying to upgrade. Here's what I had for the 7D:

10-22 (loved for landscapes, sold)
17-55 2.8 IS (trying to sell, was great but am equally as happy, if not more with the 24-105)
70-300 IS
Sigma 30 1.4 (trying to sell)
Canon 85 1.8 (loved it on 7D and love it on 5D MK III)

What I'm wondering is what my next moves should be with FF. I have a WA/UWA gap that has me considering the 17-40 F4L as the price is right compared the 16-35 2.8. Here's what I'm thinking my ideal kit will be in the future

UWA (need to buy, need advice here, 17-40 ok?)
24-105 F4L IS (have)
85 1.8 (have)
70-300 IS (keep, selling for a few hundred bucks won't help all that much and can use for times when I want a lighter/longer zoom)
70-200 2.8L IS mk II (need, rented it on 7D for daughters recital and loved it; definiately want this for future indoor events and sports)

Debating if the 50 1.4 would be a good add too for indoor, low light as 85 is a little long. Thoughts here?

Anything I'm missing? To add, my primary work is portraits (studio and natural light) and my family/kids around the house/outside/sports/e​vents and some other family type events (for others).

Thanks in advance!


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Aug 16, 2012 10:38 |  #2

If you don't think you need the extra stop from the 16-35 then go for the 17-40, it is an excellent wide zoom lens on FF.

The 70-200 MK II is the best zoom, but I personally don't like the weight and size. I went for the f/4 IS for myself.

One other lens you should consider if you mainly shoot portraits, the 135L. I picked it up a couple days ago, the 135L is fantastic. It is razor sharp, almost too sharp for portraits.


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Aug 16, 2012 10:42 |  #3

thestone11 wrote in post #14866123 (external link)
If you don't think you need the extra stop from the 16-35 then go for the 17-40, it is an excellent wide zoom lens on FF.

The 70-200 MK II is the best zoom, but I personally don't like the weight and size. I went for the f/4 IS for myself.

One other lens you should consider if you mainly shoot portraits, the 135L. I picked it up a couple days ago, the 135L is fantastic. It is razor sharp, almost too sharp for portraits.

Thanks for the input, the weight and size of the 2.8 IS is the reason i'll just keep the 70-300 IS for times when I don't need it, but 2.8 will be valuable indoors. I'll have to take a look at the 135L, good focal distance; maybe I'll rent that one to try it out.


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Aug 16, 2012 10:48 |  #4

I made the jump from 7D to 5D3 as my main camera as well, and have been very happy.

If you like your siggy 30mm, then a 50mm will be a great replacement as technically you're already used to shooting at the focal range. I did this as well, I loved my sigma 30mm and now with the 50mm, I am still very familiar with where I need to position myself to get the shots I want.

The 70-200mm is a no brainer imo, and I've seen many professionals on this forum vouch for using the f2.8mk2 for portraits instead of a prime.


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Aug 16, 2012 10:51 |  #5

I have a 5D3, 24-105, 50/1.4 and 17-40. All three lenses are absolutely fantastic paired with the 5D3. The 50 is my favorite on it and the 24-105 saw most use, until I got the 17-40.

Can't comment on the teles, unfortunately, but welcome to the world of FF!


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Aug 16, 2012 10:55 |  #6

I love the 135L on the 5D3. The image quality is wonderful, and it's a lot smaller/lighter than the 70-200 f/2.8. I have the 70-200 f/4 IS, and prefer the lighter weight over the extra stop. With the high ISO capabilities of the 5D3, f/4 works fine for my purposes with the telephoto zoom.

If you used your Sigma 30mm f/1.4 a lot on the 7D, then you will probably want a 50mm prime for the 5D3. I never cared for a 50mm prime when I shot crop only (the 28mm f/1.8 was much more useful), but now find it very useful with full frame. I plan to sell my 50mm f/1.4, if you are interested. I just bought a 50L.

Just as 50mm was not too useful for me on a crop, I now find the 85mm f/1.8 not that useful on the 5D3 for what I shoot. That may go up for sale, too, as the 135L now meets my needs.


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Aug 16, 2012 11:09 |  #7

also, keep in mind that the 5D3's ISO capabilities are much better than the 7d. If you're worried about the extra stop you need indoors, a simple ISO bump could fix it.


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Aug 16, 2012 14:01 |  #8

If I were you , I would get the 50 1.4 , 70-200 IS II and a UWA.

Then you will have three zooms :
UWA
walk around in 24-105
70-200 IS II for outdoor

50 1.4 for low light
85 1.8 complementary to 70-200 becoz of the weight, size and faster aperture.

Actually my own setup is quite similar to this. :D


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Aug 16, 2012 14:24 |  #9

I just made the same move. Sold my 10-22 to help purchase 5D3, now wondering which to get first 16-35 or 400 5.6.

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Aug 16, 2012 15:03 |  #10

The 17-40 is a pretty even trade for the 10-22. Similar focal range, maybe not quite as sharp, probably better color, constant f/4 instead of variable f/3.5-4.5. If you were happy with f/4 on your 7D, then you will still be happy with it on your 5D. If it had been a problem for you, then I assume you would have been using the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8.

The reasons to get the 16-35 II over the 17-40 besides aperture is for the extra 1mm on the wide end or for the awesome starbursts that can't be matched by any other Canon lens. I went with the 17-40 when I picked up a 5D and still sometimes think about selling it for the 16-35. I'm satisfied with the image quality though, so I haven't swapped yet.

Are you keeping your 7D? If so then you should also keep your 17-55. I couldn't let mine go.


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Aug 16, 2012 15:17 as a reply to  @ Mark-B's post |  #11

Keep in mind the 16-35 has a 82mm filter thread. If you already invested a few filters that are 77mm, then you have to think about filter sizes. The 70-200 II, 17-40, and 24-105 alll have 77mm filter threads.


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Aug 16, 2012 16:35 as a reply to  @ rayman102's post |  #12

Thanks everyone. Right now based on alot of the comments mentioned I'm leaning towards adding the 17-40 and eventually the 70-200 2.8L IS mk II. That will give me good coverage with 3 zooms. As for primes, due to price I'll probably add the 50 1.4 and maybe eventually the 135L and have a solid 6 lens kit.


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Aug 16, 2012 16:45 |  #13

You also have to keep in mind Rob that when using a UWA for landscapes you are shooting >f/8. At that f stop the 17-40 is equal in centre sharpness to the 16-35. Edge sharpness may not be as good though but it is by no means all that bad either. I have only one recommendation, see how yo ugo with your 24-105 before you buy the 17-40. The reason I say this is when I had a 50D only my favourite lens was my 10-22. I mainly used it and the 15-85. When I went FF the first thing I did was go out and buy a 17-40. BUT, I found I was hardly using it because the 24-105 kit lens was wide enough. The 17-40 is still my least used lens. The 2 main ones I now use are the 24-70 and 70-200. Even though I have 50 & 85 primes I still use those 2 zooms the most.


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Aug 16, 2012 17:39 |  #14

I've batted the idea of adding a UWA to my meager collection, for quite some time.
I also, have the 24-105L, that seems to do a fair job.
I really don't have a pressing need for a UWA, I'd like one just in case.
For that reason, I'm considering the Tokina 16-28 f/2.8.
Cost is on par with Canon 17-40.
It has good reviews, and half the cost of the Canon 16-35.




  
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Aug 16, 2012 18:05 |  #15

L.J.G. wrote in post #14867602 (external link)
I have only one recommendation, see how yo ugo with your 24-105 before you buy the 17-40 .... When I went FF the first thing I did was go out and buy a 17-40. BUT, I found I was hardly using it because the 24-105 kit lens was wide enough.

Skul wrote in post #14867780 (external link)
I also, have the 24-105L, that seems to do a fair job.


The 24-105 is a good lens, but the 17-40 has noticeably less distortion at 24mm.


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