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Aug 19, 2012 11:55 |  #1

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Should I go back and work on the dark areas under her eyes more?
I did as much as I think I can in Lr, but it looks like I might need to do a little cut and paste in Ps, no? I'm always a little put off by pics where the model's face looks flat and two-dimensional after the under the eye area has been "healed".
Guess we should have started off with better makeup LOL!

Feel free to comment on other aspects of the images, too. I'm here to learn!

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Aug 20, 2012 03:48 |  #2

Nice pics, focussing is nice.

If were to do anything, (and im no expert by a long shot) Id try some colour filters via photoshop and see if any of those make those eyes pop a little more (they are gorgeous and they do stand out but maybe a little more...)

If you're not happy with the shot, and it sounds like you're not totally convinced, try some shadow highlight modifications in PP, maybe some sharpening on her eyes or push the vibrance or saturation just on her eyes up a little more?

If you dont mind, im going to "borrow" one of these images and see if I can point you in the right direction. Post again in a few minutes



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Aug 20, 2012 04:01 |  #3

Ok, took me longer to upload than to tweak:

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Eyes were smart sharpened and saturation in the eyes ever so slightly bumped up

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Eyes were smart sharpened, saturation in the eyes ever so slightly bumped up
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I think her eyes look a little more pronounced now


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Aug 20, 2012 05:27 |  #4

carlh wrote in post #14881020 (external link)
Ok, took me longer to upload than to tweak:

The first image,
Eyes were smart sharpened and saturation in the eyes ever so slightly bumped up

http://i1246.photobuck​et.com/albums/gg601/Ca​rldh/tp1.jpg (external link)

Second image
Eyes were smart sharpened, saturation in the eyes ever so slightly bumped up
AND Some Highlight/Shadow changes (only slight), gives her a bit of tan (I didnt want that but as i said, only a couple of minutes tweaking)

http://i1246.photobuck​et.com/albums/gg601/Ca​rldh/tp2.jpg (external link)

I think her eyes look a little more pronounced now

Whoa Carl what monitor are you using? I think it needs calibrating..

OP, very nice shots. I like the pp, very natural.

Depending on who the client is, I probably wouldn't go and work on under the eyes any more. T me they look good.


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Aug 20, 2012 06:15 |  #5

carlh wrote in post #14881020 (external link)
Ok, took me longer to upload than to tweak:

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Second image
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These renditions ruined these 2 photographs. They just look WAY too overphotoshopped. What the OP had worked just fine!

OP, looks great! Only thing I would work on is a bit of your cropping. I personally don't like cutting any part of the arms off. Also could use just a tad of saturation(5-10).

I think her eyes look a little more pronounced now


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Aug 20, 2012 10:30 |  #6

Nice shots - the framing is good (some on this board don't like women photos with arms raised but the above works for me).
Nice lighting, focus, exposure and background and good catch lights.
The edits are a big step back......not even necessary.




  
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Aug 20, 2012 11:30 |  #7

modachroma wrote in post #14878168 (external link)
Should I go back and work on the dark areas under her eyes more?
I did as much as I think I can in Lr, but it looks like I might need to do a little cut and paste in Ps, no? I'm always a little put off by pics where the model's face looks flat and two-dimensional after the under the eye area has been "healed".
Guess we should have started off with better makeup LOL!

Feel free to comment on other aspects of the images, too. I'm here to learn!

First thing I noticed about the first picture is how closely her picture matches your avatar. :lol:

I don't think they are to bad, might look a little tire/dark on the 1 & 2 of the 3 shot series, but I can see it might get pushed to far as you were saying about them being flat. The lighting was very well done though.


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Aug 20, 2012 14:02 |  #8

OP - Great set. I wouldn't do any more work under the eyes. I think over time you will look back on your processing and see that less is more when it comes to those type of touchups. Keep up the good work.


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Aug 20, 2012 16:04 |  #9

I think you need to work on positioning your lights correctly. The catchlights show two light sources; and oddly enough it looks like your main light was at camera left and approximately the same height as the model (note the catchlight at nine o'clock that clearly shows an umbrella) while the fill light was at camera right and raised high above the model (the catchlight at 2 o'clock). Feel free to correct me if I interpreted this incorrectly.

To me the catchlights look odd because humans expect to see the main light coming from above (lighting predominantly comes from overhead). So seeing the large catchlights at the 9 o'clock position doesn't coincide with how we normally see light.


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Aug 20, 2012 17:04 |  #10

I think the OP's photos look really good


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Aug 20, 2012 17:07 |  #11

PixelMagic wrote in post #14883535 (external link)
I think you need to work on positioning your lights correctly. The catchlights show two light sources; and oddly enough it looks like your main light was at camera left and approximately the same height as the model (note the catchlight at nine o'clock that clearly shows an umbrella) while the fill light was at camera right and raised high above the model (the catchlight at 2 o'clock). Feel free to correct me if I interpreted this incorrectly.

To me the catchlights look odd because humans expect to see the main light coming from above (lighting predominantly comes from overhead). So seeing the large catchlights at the 9 o'clock position doesn't coincide with how we normally see light.

I did think the double catchlight was kind of weird.
The light on the right, higher up, was supposed to be my main light.
Soooo... Turn down the power on the left light? Move it more to the side of the model?


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Aug 20, 2012 17:16 |  #12

carlh wrote in post #14881020 (external link)
Ok, took me longer to upload than to tweak:

I think her eyes look a little more pronounced now

Whoa there. That looks way worse.

On a relevant note: the originals could use a little warmer skin tones. Good otherwise though.




  
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Aug 20, 2012 18:10 |  #13

modachroma wrote in post #14883839 (external link)
I did think the double catchlight was kind of weird.
The light on the right, higher up, was supposed to be my main light.
Soooo... Turn down the power on the left light? Move it more to the side of the model?

Check your lighting ratio because it appears to me that the light at camera left is brighter. Yes, you want your main light to be above the model.


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Aug 20, 2012 18:37 |  #14

I don't like the straight-on symmetrical pose much. And I'd darken around both wrists. To me the eyes look oversharpened in the OP - maybe it's just the bright crescent around the irises caused by the big octabox. Finally I'd smooth out the underarm wrinkles on the left.


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