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Aug 22, 2012 16:06 |  #16

hi fatbloke, i was in this position and after sometime settled on the lencarta, smartflash, nice for the money, as i was also wanting something like a softbox i tried a Meking for £20 delivered, not the best quality but for me they do the job, just learning with them now, modeling lamp is very handy too.
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Aug 23, 2012 07:26 |  #17

Cheers Simon I have been looking at the Lencarta Starter pack after recommendations from other forums. http://www.lencarta.co​m …s-powered-starter-kit-502 (external link)
I really can't justify spending a fortune on lights for what is simply a hobby. I enjoy portrait photography but I have no ambitions to take it any further than a hobby. Lencartas smartlash heads seem to have what I'm looking for with the bonus of being fan cooled. They also appear from what I have read to be fully accessable with a variety of manufacturers. You really can't beat two flash heads, softbox and umbrella for just over £319 ($508)

Like I same I'm on a very very tight budget so wondered what others thought of the specification of this kit?


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Aug 23, 2012 09:32 |  #18

Ok, if you really are on a tight budget, then I think you may want to re-think the speedlight version, instead of the cheap stobe lighting kit.

Here is an example of what a speedlight can do:

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This was achieved with 2 540ez canon flashes, 1 40 inch brolly, (key) (the other flash was bare for side/rim) 2 lightstands, 2 flash + umbrella holders and 3 rf-603's are involved. I'm rough figuring I have less than $300 in this set up, and it is flexible, I can pull back and dial up these two flashes and then do this:

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Which is exactly what happened that day, usually I only do the individual shots, but they wanted a group one.

This set up will work in a small room, such as you describe, and it is portable to anywhere, even outside, same brolly/speedlight/ligh​tstand was used for this shot:

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So... I know I'd be bored to tears with an AB set up.. even though I think they make one of the best starter sets out there... I dont' want to spend serious money on the battery packs needed to make it work outside- and I'd get tired of only doing inside shots against cheap muslin bgs.

So I'd recommend you find some cheap flashes that are manual like the Canon 540ez (or you can get the newer, e-ttl 430ex II used pretty cheap - in case you want to stick one on the camera hotshoe and go for a b-day party), get a set or two of rf-603's, and then get a kit something like this:
http://www.ebay.com …mbrella-Kit-/370636892796 (external link)

And you can be off and running. anywhere you want. And could sell everything and not loose much if you wanted out.

The other thing you WILL have to invest in to use this set up properly-- is time - you will need to take the time to learn how to wb, how to manual everything to achieve a well executed picture.. to go cheap, you can't just let the camera do all the thinking... :lol:

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Aug 23, 2012 09:39 |  #19

serious money? $250 for a vagabond mini lithium. It's all relative though, right?


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Aug 23, 2012 09:44 |  #20

Yeah... I've never spent $250 on a battery, not even for my truck! *LOL*

Plus.. wind come up and sends my $60 flash to the ground.. oh well, but takes out an AB? ack! I think I'd feel like I lost a child! (and I know, they ain't that much either! relatively!)


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Aug 23, 2012 09:54 |  #21

its all about proper care and feeding of these things. You should have a few sandbags to help keep the light upright.


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Aug 23, 2012 10:36 |  #22

Sure, I agree.. well, to a point.. Ks wind has a way of sneaking up on you. Plus, I feel like I lug around enough as it is.. have to break out the pack donkey if I start toting around AB + battery packs + sandbags + those modifiers..

If a studio flash head would have made the pics above better in some way, I guess I could see that. Not sure that it would, for the resolution these generally get printed at (8x10 - usually, but I've printed 20x30 as well.)

These may not be what the op really wants to do.. but sometimes I think speedlights aren't given enough respect, and people only think of the thing on top of their camera and that quality of light as what they'd get.


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