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Aug 24, 2012 10:04 |  #1

Hello all,
This is my first time on this forum and I am excited to converse with such professionals.
I have been photographing level 4&5 gymnastics and youth soccer for the past three years. I wanted to add some higher level photos to my portfolio and contacted a local junior college to see if I could gain access to some of their sports to shoot. I offered to give them cd's or dvd's with photos I take at no charge and if they use them for promotional purposes would they gladly agreed.

My question is, am I doing the right thing by giving these photos out for free in exchange for access to the games? They have no photographer on staff and use photography students to take promotional pics, which I know I can improve upon. I am hoping this gig my lead to a permanent part-time position with this junior college.

Any thoughts would be helpful.




  
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Aug 24, 2012 11:29 |  #2

Unfortunately, I think you probably screwed yourself on the part-time job. I'm willing to bet that the Jr College has <$0 to spend on action photography.
Best thing you can do is just use it to better yourself and build a portfolio.


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Aug 24, 2012 12:13 as a reply to  @ xchangx's post |  #3

Sadly, I don't think they will ever pay you after you've done it for free.


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Aug 24, 2012 12:26 |  #4

^ the junior college has photography students who would provide them with 'good enough' photos for free. They would NEVER pay, in my estimation. How would they justify paying ?

Knowing that these guys probably won't hire the OP, whose photos probably won't look so much different from the ones they're already getting, it's still worthwhile, I think. If having photos taken at a higher level than the OP is used to shooting creates a portfolio of images, that MAY help him land work with other institutions shooting this stuff.



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Aug 24, 2012 12:48 |  #5

As others have said, the chances that they will start paying you is probably pretty small. IMO, a better way to have negotiated would have been to create a contract that covered the year/season/payment and maybe offered them the first couple of events as "freebies"....kind of like a signing bonus for them. Simply shooting for free with no set plans on how to quickly turn that into profit will more often than not just leave you shooting free gigs.




  
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Aug 24, 2012 13:42 |  #6

Thank you guys for your input. I guess that I was looking at it as a stepping stone to even a higher level of college sports. We have the BGSU Falcons and the Toledo Rockets who both play in the MAC.
I have a few contacts with people who work at both, but wanted some higher level sports action in my porfolio.




  
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Aug 24, 2012 14:35 |  #7

Have you looked at shooting some highschool stuff as well?


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Aug 24, 2012 15:54 |  #8

The highschools close by already have photographers that shoot their games. I have made contact with them for the last two years to no avail. The junior college will also allow me to shoot a variety of sports ie. basketball, soccer, golf and volleyball and swimming for the women.




  
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Aug 25, 2012 04:34 |  #9

You don't need higher level stuff for a portfolio. Quite the opposite really. If you show an editor or client you can make amateur adult athletes or kids look like superstars then it speaks higher volumes than a picture of INSERTPRO doing something ordinary.


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