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Dec 08, 2010 20:51 |  #136

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Do you see how much metal on the battery case, which serves as a somewhat massive heat sink, preventing the point of soldering from reaching the right temperature?!


That's exactly why you need the high heat. It solders the bar onto the cell plate before the case can absorb the heat. That keeps the battery from getting hot.


Have you ever built battery packs before ??? I have been doing it for at least 3 years for my RC trucks.

These are heavy duty packs that need to take a pounding.


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Dec 08, 2010 21:47 |  #137

drdiesel1 wrote in post #11419798 (external link)
That's exactly why you need the high heat. It solders the bar onto the cell plate before the case can absorb the heat. That keeps the battery from getting hot.

Have you ever built battery packs before ??? I have been doing it for at least 3 years for my RC trucks.

These are heavy duty packs that need to take a pounding.

You are obviously far more skilled than I...I know that RC guys are battery freaks! :)

I think most soldering irons, even the 8-11W battery powered tiny things, produce 800 degrees...you need the Wattage to produced high volumes of 800 degrees without being sucked down by the metal battery casing. How many watts do you have to use? I wonder how many folks would have that capacity soldering gun handy?! Spend $75-95 for 250w and you might as well have sent the Quantum back for factory service and diagostic verification and (if necessary) repair of the circuitry!


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Dec 08, 2010 22:20 |  #138

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You are obviously far more skilled than I...I know that RC guys are battery freaks! :)

I think most soldering irons, even the 8-11W battery powered tiny things, produce 800 degrees...you need the Wattage to produced high volumes of 800 degrees without being sucked down by the metal battery casing. How many watts do you have to use? I wonder how many folks would have that capacity soldering gun handy?! Spend $75-95 for 250w and you might as well have sent the Quantum back for factory service and diagostic verification and (if necessary) repair of the circuitry!


I'm a tool nut, so I don't worry about what it would cost "VS" what I could have someone else do it for ;)
I like to do things myself and have exactly what, I want. Not what someone else wants :lol: I think it's a 100 watt unit for about 45 bucks.


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Dec 08, 2010 23:08 |  #139

drdiesel1 wrote in post #11419588 (external link)
.... or just drop it into cold water.
.....

all roads lead to Rome-
but I prefer to keep water & extremely heat away from electronics....
unless you've got real professional soldering equipment & experience

the cells are not really expensive(no big risk to destroy something valuable) - and as I said: relatively friendly regarding soldering heat.

but interesting discussion...
for 1 Quantum 2x2 you can try to do the job quick&dirty-
but if you do it 10 or more times(for example reselling) it could be really interesting to
go the more professional way.




  
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Dec 08, 2010 23:23 |  #140

Klaus4 wrote in post #11420420 (external link)
all roads lead to Rome-
but I prefer to keep water & extremely heat away from electronics....


I don't think a battery pack is exactly considered "Electronics" :lol:

If water could cause a pack problem, my RC trucks would be in big trouble ;)

I use a Weller Soldering Station for all my pack building. I also use a battery jig and high end components.


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Dec 08, 2010 23:33 |  #141

drdiesel1 wrote in post #11420485 (external link)
I don't think a battery pack is exactly considered "Electronics" :lol:

If water could cause a pack problem, my RC trucks would be in big trouble ;)

remember that you're an experienced soldering man -
some less experienced people could think that you go under cold shower with your battery packs after you cooked them in a 800 degrees baking oven :mrgreen:

btw- thanks for interesting soldering information




  
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Mar 29, 2012 10:28 |  #142

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The Powersonic PS-832 is the replacement cell of choice among DIY'ers. At around $20, it's the cheapest option.

In the photo you see the cell that comes in new Quantum Turbos. It's a Sonnenshein A208/2.7S. Much harder to find than the Powersonic and twice as expensive (at best).

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Reviving an old thread...If there is anyone who has a Quantum 2 battery, the Powersonic PS-832 will also replace the cell inside that model battery pack. You only need to remove the two screws on the sides of the Quantum 2 pack (and not the two screws on the control panel top!); the electronics and battery slide out (shake it like an upside-down bottle of catsup, and let gravity help it all out of the case)


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Mar 30, 2012 18:33 |  #143

Since you revived this, the Quantum 1 and 1+ can also be rebuilt easily. The OEM USA built batteries are available on EBay for $24-25, depending on which you need. i don't recall now which is which, but I did my 1 and 1+ at the same time. One had tabs and the other had wire leads. Almost identical batteries, same insides. Very quick to replace, less than 30 minutes total for the 2 of them.


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Apr 04, 2012 15:49 |  #144

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Since you revived this, the Quantum 1 and 1+ can also be rebuilt easily. The OEM USA built batteries are available on EBay for $24-25, depending on which you need. i don't recall now which is which, but I did my 1 and 1+ at the same time. One had tabs and the other had wire leads. Almost identical batteries, same insides. Very quick to replace, less than 30 minutes total for the 2 of them.

Is the SLA for the Quantum 1, the same SLA which can be used for the Quantum 2 and Quantum Turbo (classic)?


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Apr 06, 2012 10:15 |  #145

You can get battery cell packs at battery replacement stores like Battery Plus and All Battery. Most do custom battery packs. Google them.


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Apr 30, 2012 18:59 as a reply to  @ mjww's post |  #146

... all my 3 quick&dirty soldered Turbo 2x2 still running without problems :D
... now I soldered a connector cable for my Kodak DCS 760.
'took the end of the AC-Adaptor and soldered it to a Turbo-cable ( black&red).
Works but:
there's a green wire on the AC-Adaptor side which I didn't solder.In addition there'S a ferrite bead on the Kodak-plug(I didn't remove it).
Problem:
Camera gets power from the Turbo but images are full of horizontal stripes when the Turbo is the only power source( no problems when battery & Turbo are installed together)..
MY question (maybe here'S an expert who can answer it) :
should I remove the ferrite bead from the plug?
Or should I open the Turbo-side-cord-plug to connect green(ground) ?
I'm not afraid of experiments but the Kodak is a rare cam(I have 2 of them) which I don'T want to toast ;-)a
I'll send pics of setup if necessary.
Thank you in advance for electro-technical information(which pin of Turbo-cord is green/ground?)


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cord works fine now (removed ferrite ....)..... there's a lot to say but it's specific to this Camera/ not the right place to discuss it here.
should be easy for almost all models of plugs to replace cord's original plug with the plug you need-
it's possible to connect multiple plugs to one Turbo-cable so you can use the plug you need at the moment.


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Jul 24, 2012 09:38 as a reply to  @ mjww's post |  #147

bringing the old thread,

I have 2 units Turbo 2x2 and would like to experiments with Turbo Compact,
I like the idea of having batteries under the camera rather than silly cable
around

did anyone ever open inside of Compact ?
what is the batteries voltage, Ampere, etc


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Aug 22, 2012 12:20 |  #148

mjww wrote in post #14220063 (external link)
You can get battery cell packs at battery replacement stores like Battery Plus and All Battery. Most do custom battery packs. Google them.

I found these threads and have been indexing them as i have a Turbo 2x2 pack i bought used along with a Quantum t4d. They were in excellent shape but the battery must not have been used and the cells needed replacement. After finally getting the pack out i cannot find anyone who will replace the Nimh pack for less then $80-100 including Batteries Plus and a local suppliers. (They initially quote $30 because they think its Nicads even though i state what it is, or they think its sub-c cells and not 4/5 sub C cells).. The local supplier offered to use Nicads in a sub C size, 1/4" taller with 3800Nimh. I don't want to risk that; different chargers, run time. The only source i have found is Ebay
http://www.ebay.com …96232055626#ht_​1190wt_921 (external link)
i have never put a pack together so i don't want to risk that either... For now its that supplier. Next year i"ll look for a Turbo compact or a regular Turbo. Well back to the 580exll's!!


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Sep 04, 2012 20:38 |  #149

I am curious if anyone has purchased the $68 2x2 battery pack replacement from eBay.




  
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Oct 13, 2012 00:05 as a reply to  @ gregd11's post |  #150

Yes. i did. it works fine. the rating is 2000mah instead of 2100 like stock but i have used it for several weddings with a t4d. i charge once at the reception and it lasts the whole wedding, usually 800+ shots.


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