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Canon 50 F1.2L VS 85 F1.2L MKII Lenses

 
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Sep 07, 2012 11:01 |  #1

Aside from reach,how do the Canon 50 F1.2L and 85 F1.2L MKII lenses compare to each other when it comes to IQ,sharpness,contrast,​and color rendering?Which among the 2 also focuses faster?
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Sep 07, 2012 11:15 |  #2

IQ: 85LII wins
Sharpness: 85LII wins
Contrast: Not sure? But I really like the contrast of the 85LII
Color: Not sure which is better but the colors from my 85LII are the best I've seen.
DOF: 85LII wins (Less DOF)
Focusspeed: 50L wins

I have never ownded a 50L. But I don't even want to own one. There are focussing problems with that lens. And it is not so sharp at F1.2.


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Sep 07, 2012 12:09 |  #3

No One wrote in post #14959791 (external link)
Aside from reach,how do the Canon 50 F1.2L and 85 F1.2L MKII lenses compare to each other when it comes to IQ,sharpness,contrast,​and color rendering?Which among the 2 also focuses faster?
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Simple:

85L - Slow as a snail, IQ/Sharpness rocks!!

Contrast and color rendering seem similar to me.

50L - focuses faster. Can be a bit frustrating to use at times.

Simple answer get both!!


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Sep 07, 2012 12:12 |  #4

Bonbridge wrote in post #14959858 (external link)
IQ: 85LII wins

I have never ownded a 50L. But I don't even want to own one. There are focussing problems with that lens. And it is not so sharp at F1.2.

I try to avoid judging lenses I don't own (introducing bias based on others opinions). The 50L is fine at 1.2 not as sharp as the 85L but fine. It beat the other 50s I have owned (50 1.8, 50 1,4, sigma 50 1.4, 45 tse). Only you can decide if the price merits owning it.

Please note that all the 50s above are very close to eachother with different strengths and weaknesses through the aperture range.

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Sep 07, 2012 13:40 |  #5

Bonbridge wrote in post #14959858 (external link)
I have never ownded a 50L. But I don't even want to own one. There are focussing problems with that lens. And it is not so sharp at F1.2.

Really! maybe it's time for you to rent one.


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Sep 07, 2012 15:37 |  #6

Bonbridge wrote in post #14959858 (external link)
DOF: 85LII wins (Less DOF)

If you frame the same shot at the same aperture then the DoF is the same...no winner or loser in the DoF stakes.

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Sep 07, 2012 15:41 |  #7

No One wrote in post #14959791 (external link)
Aside from reach,how do the Canon 50 F1.2L and 85 F1.2L MKII lenses compare to each other when it comes to IQ,sharpness,contrast,​and color rendering?Which among the 2 also focuses faster?
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Both lenses are superb! The decision to buy one versus the other should be based on your particular needs. I use my 85/1.2 II only for close-up studio portraits; and my 50L for environmental portraits.


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Sep 07, 2012 18:03 |  #8

85LII is sharp wide open, very sharp in fact. The colour and the contrast is wonderful as well. It can be a bit of a beast to tame, with the 1.2 and relatively slow infinity focus (once its got an area to focus on, its fine to make minor adjustments. Such as in AI Servo. It's really only a bit slow going from infinity and back)

I love the focal length personally, on FF. It was definitely worth the price to me, and its sharpness still shocks me sometimes at 1.2 :) and you can't fault the beautiful bokeh it renders.

I've heard mixed reviews on the 50 1.2 - I've never owned one, so I can't give my own opinion - just that the majority of negatives that came up for it was inconsistant focusing at 1.2, and softness wide open. I considered that lens when I was considering the 85LII - I decided in the end that since I was going to be using it at 1.2 95% of the time, I wanted the sharpest option I could get.

For the 50L could have been cases of user error or soft copies, but the only negative that most people agree on for the 85LII is the slow AF - which is due to the massive amount of glass it has to move. It hasn't bothered me yet.

Why don't you rent both and see what you think? I think the main thing would come down to what focal length you prefer overall.


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Sep 07, 2012 22:09 |  #9

The focus by wire in the 85 doesnt help either. Since I shoot a fair bit of sports I would opt for the 85 F1.8 for pure speed, but bought the 50L for F1.2 and build. It is pretty good at F1.2 F1.4 is good and would have no problem using.


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Sep 07, 2012 23:43 |  #10

Both are good, and this is coming from a 85L owner. I want to buy a 50L even though I have a 35L and 85L

There seem to be a lot of bad copies of this lens out there though, I myself have used a copy that was soft until f/4. Clearly something wrong there.

However the most recent 50L I used was as sharp as my 85LII wide open. Ok almost as sharp. It was very good anyway.

A proper functioning 50L feels like a cross between a 35L and 85L. As it should.

Never tried using it stopped down though...I don't know how any of my primes perform stopped down :)


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Sep 08, 2012 00:12 |  #11

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Both are good, and this is coming from a 85L owner. I want to buy a 50L even though I have a 35L and 85L

There seem to be a lot of bad copies of this lens out there though, I myself have used a copy that was soft until f/4. Clearly something wrong there.

However the most recent 50L I used was as sharp as my 85LII wide open. Ok almost as sharp. It was very good anyway.

A proper functioning 50L feels like a cross between a 35L and 85L. As it should.

Never tried using it stopped down though...I don't know how any of my primes perform stopped down :)

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Sep 08, 2012 03:42 as a reply to  @ downhillnews's post |  #12

As it comes to 50L I assume that people do not buy it for sharpness but for the ability to achieve fast focus in bad lightning conditions at f/1.2
Sharpness is not all. 85L and 50L both produce great bokeh!
As it comes to focal lenght I think that it depends on your needs.
It is best to own both primes if you ask me :)
However, I wouldn't change my 85 for anything else!
At the moment I consider buying 50L additionally or maybe a pancake 40mm cos I need something between 24 and 85mm.
I've also heard some good stuff about Sigma 50mm.


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Sep 08, 2012 05:21 |  #13

Bonbridge wrote in post #14959858 (external link)
IQ: 85LII wins
Sharpness: 85LII wins
Contrast: Not sure? But I really like the contrast of the 85LII
Color: Not sure which is better but the colors from my 85LII are the best I've seen.
DOF: 85LII wins (Less DOF)
Focusspeed: 50L wins

I have never ownded a 50L. But I don't even want to own one. There are focussing problems with that lens. And it is not so sharp at F1.2.

At MFD (which is significantly shorter) the dof of the 50L is narrower.


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Sep 08, 2012 06:38 |  #14

I have both, and I will keep both. 85LII is sharper, but sharpness isn't everything in an image. besides, the 50L is more than sharp enough (unless you're a pixel peeper in which case, no lens really satisfies...). And the 50L focuses way faster.

images from both are great. subject separation and bokeh is amazing on both. i often use the 50L for street photography as it provides an almost 3 dimensional pop that the 85 doesn't necessarily replicate.


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Sep 08, 2012 06:46 |  #15

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images from both are great. subject separation and bokeh is amazing on both. i often use the 50L for street photography as it provides an almost 3 dimensional pop that the 85 doesn't necessarily replicate.

Hey sol95,
What would you buy first if you only had 24mm and 85mm primes - another prime (50L) or 70-200 IS II?? Just for fun :cool:


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