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Sep 10, 2012 10:53 as a reply to  @ post 14971629 |  #76

I didn't take your statement as offensive, I just didin't understand the reasoning you gave. Now it's clear that you use your longer FL lenses for higher magnification rather than framing or for controlling perspective and the original statement has validity.

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Sep 10, 2012 11:10 |  #77
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light_pilgrim wrote in post #14970404 (external link)
Hyperfocal focusing? How will you know that eyes are perfectly in focus....? I cannot see it with 35 f/1.4 ZE when I use the viewfinder...let alone hyperfocal focusing.....
Well....yes, select f/22 and all will be in focus...agree....


Do you know what is hyperfocal focusing? At a certain F stop, the DOF scale on the lens will tell you your DOF distance from the min to infinity. As long the subject is within this DOF distance, not only your eyes are in focus. Everything else would be in focus......:cool:


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Sep 10, 2012 11:13 |  #78

Canon Bob wrote in post #14971801 (external link)
I didn't take your statement as offensive, I just didin't understand the reasoning you gave. Now it's clear that you use your longer FL lenses for higher magnification rather than framing or for controlling perspective and the original statement has validity.

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Sep 10, 2012 11:22 |  #79

TooManyShots wrote in post #14971885 (external link)
Do you know what is hyperfocal focusing? At a certain F stop, the DOF scale on the lens will tell you your DOF distance from the min to infinity. As long the subject is within this DOF distance, not only your eyes are in focus. Everything else would be in focus......:cool:

The DOF scale works very well. :)




  
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Sep 10, 2012 11:30 |  #80

I've had my eye on another ZE100 MP for a while now - there would have to be a pretty compelling reason to go for this over the MP.


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Sep 10, 2012 12:57 |  #81

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I've had my eye on another ZE100 MP for a while now - there would have to be a pretty compelling reason to go for this over the MP.

I'd expect the rendering to be different as it'll be aimed at different usage. The bigger issue would be the focus ring throw.....the MP has much of it concentrated at the quasi-macro end of the scale whilst a basic telephoto would not have that bias by design.

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Sep 10, 2012 13:22 |  #82

TooManyShots wrote in post #14971885 (external link)
Do you know what is hyperfocal focusing? At a certain F stop, the DOF scale on the lens will tell you your DOF distance from the min to infinity. As long the subject is within this DOF distance, not only your eyes are in focus. Everything else would be in focus......:cool:

But I do not want everything else, just eyes:-)


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Sep 10, 2012 13:43 |  #83
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light_pilgrim wrote in post #14972485 (external link)
But I do not want everything else, just eyes:-)


That's not street photography. Is more like portrait photography with a street looking bokeh....


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Sep 10, 2012 13:44 |  #84

TooManyShots wrote in post #14972586 (external link)
That's not street photography. Is more like portrait photography with a street looking bokeh....

Something like this:-)
http://1x.com …oto/53646/portf​olio/28034 (external link)

Still street, no?


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Sep 10, 2012 20:35 |  #85
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TooManyShots wrote in post #14972586 (external link)
That's not street photography. Is more like portrait photography with a street looking bokeh....

Come to think of it, he does have a point.

Here's one photo I found on flickr that I would classify as street photography (not mine) -

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If all you want is sharp eyes and blur out the background, it's not really a street shots anymore, at least from my limited knowledge.

Street shot is normally done with a semi-wide to normal lens, enough dof to show the environment (street).

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Sep 11, 2012 01:04 |  #86

This topic has seriously derailed. Are we now seriously debating what falls under street photography? It's a photo and it was taken on the street. Add to the mix that it's been taken spontaneously and in my opinion that makes street photography, whether you do it at 14mm or at 800mm or whichever depth of field you choose.

This entire street photography seems to be irrelevant and was only raised because someone mentioned it would be hard to MF at 135mm, at which hyperfocal focusing was mentioned, dismissed, rementioned etc.


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Sep 11, 2012 07:26 |  #87

kin2son wrote in post #14974275 (external link)
If all you want is sharp eyes and blur out the background, it's not really a street shots anymore, at last from my limited knowledge.

It will be more like the portrait taken outdoor.


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Sep 11, 2012 07:46 |  #88

kf095 wrote in post #14975951 (external link)
It will be more like the portrait taken outdoor.

I would say this is why 90% of people purchase 135L, no?


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Sep 11, 2012 09:31 |  #89

light_pilgrim wrote in post #14975999 (external link)
I would say this is why 90% of people purchase 135L, no?

Absolutely! For outdoor portraits. But I'm not sure if people buying it to take candids.


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Sep 11, 2012 09:41 |  #90

kf095 wrote in post #14976334 (external link)
Absolutely! For outdoor portraits. But I'm not sure if people buying it to take candids.

in any case....we all know, by know...whether we buy Zeiss because we are fanboys or because it will really do better results in a consistent way for people photography than 135L:-)


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