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Canon 24-70mm F2.8 L II USM arived

 
Zlatko ­ Batistich
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Sep 09, 2012 17:45 |  #106

Mike55 wrote in post #14961443 (external link)
The original 24-70 appears to have better build quality (the new L's seem to be made of cheaper materials, no surprise from the last company to still charge for lens hoods), and the new 24-70 doesn't offer any feature improvements.

Actually, the build quality of the original 24-70 was very problematic. People who used this lens heavily learned that it needed frequent calibration, and the calibration was not simple. It required a trip to Canon or an independent repair expert. One calibration every year or two was about enough for me, but I heard a photographer claim he needed calibration once per month. I don't know that for a fact; it may have been a bit of hyperbole. But the lens definitely had something that would go out of whack with heavy use. At some point, you would find that it couldn't focus well any more. People who used the lens very lightly probably never got to that point where it needed calibration.

If the new lens is better in this respect, and needs very infrequent calibration, then it will be a HUGE upgrade for some photographers. The money (and downtime) saved on calibration will pay for the extra lens cost. And the added reliability, sharper photos, and peace of mind will be an everyday advantage. I am hopeful that Canon has addressed this one big problem of the original 24-70. I suspect that this is main the reason for the upgrade. Whether that is a fact, only time will tell.

I am definitely not in favor of keeping the build quality of the original: it just wasn't that good. And it was big and heavy and awkwardly balanced as it got longer when zoomed wide. The 24-105 had much better handling, so I'm glad that the new 24-70 II works more like the 24-105. Adding IS is not a big attraction for a lens in this focal range. I would rather that they spend their resources on image quality and durability. IS would be very nice, but wouldn't make it a big upgrade for me.




  
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Sep 10, 2012 14:28 as a reply to  @ Zlatko Batistich's post |  #107

I just received a shipping notification from B&H. Scheduled delivery is on Wed. Very excited!


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Sep 10, 2012 14:37 |  #108

drewconner wrote in post #14972799 (external link)
I just received a shipping notification from B&H. Scheduled delivery is on Wed. Very excited!

Same here! Mine says arrival tomorrow!


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Sep 10, 2012 16:35 |  #109

I hope Adorama is not behind the ball on this release...


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Sep 10, 2012 16:40 |  #110

Just called Adorama. They said they have not received any shipment or date yet...guy on the phone even tried to say B&H was lying. lol.

Looks like B&H wins this shipment release.


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Sep 10, 2012 17:24 |  #111

Zlatko Batistich wrote in post #14968994 (external link)
Actually, the build quality of the original 24-70 was very problematic. People who used this lens heavily learned that it needed frequent calibration, and the calibration was not simple. It required a trip to Canon or an independent repair expert. One calibration every year or two was about enough for me, but I heard a photographer claim he needed calibration once per month. I don't know that for a fact; it may have been a bit of hyperbole. But the lens definitely had something that would go out of whack with heavy use. At some point, you would find that it couldn't focus well any more. People who used the lens very lightly probably never got to that point where it needed calibration.

If the new lens is better in this respect, and needs very infrequent calibration, then it will be a HUGE upgrade for some photographers. The money (and downtime) saved on calibration will pay for the extra lens cost. And the added reliability, sharper photos, and peace of mind will be an everyday advantage. I am hopeful that Canon has addressed this one big problem of the original 24-70. I suspect that this is main the reason for the upgrade. Whether that is a fact, only time will tell.

I am definitely not in favor of keeping the build quality of the original: it just wasn't that good. And it was big and heavy and awkwardly balanced as it got longer when zoomed wide. The 24-105 had much better handling, so I'm glad that the new 24-70 II works more like the 24-105. Adding IS is not a big attraction for a lens in this focal range. I would rather that they spend their resources on image quality and durability. IS would be very nice, but wouldn't make it a big upgrade for me.

I believe this to be true. The steel construction would lead you to believe in superior build, but that's just not the case.

Just think of older classic cars that weighed a ton... all that metal must mean better construction and quality.... not even close to current gen cars loaded with plastics.


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Sep 10, 2012 18:00 |  #112

JLai81 wrote in post #14973329 (external link)
Just called Adorama. They said they have not received any shipment or date yet...guy on the phone even tried to say B&H was lying. lol.

Looks like B&H wins this shipment release.

From my B&H email:

Scheduled Delivery:
Tuesday, 09/11/2012, By End of Day

They were ahead of Adorama on my 1DX too.


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Sep 10, 2012 19:27 |  #113

ChrisGorabPhotography wrote in post #14973638 (external link)
From my B&H email:

Scheduled Delivery:
Tuesday, 09/11/2012, By End of Day

They were ahead of Adorama on my 1DX too.

Nice! That's gonna be an awesome combo. I plan on mating mine to a lowly 5D3. :)


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Sep 10, 2012 19:57 |  #114

JLai81 wrote in post #14973959 (external link)
Nice! That's gonna be an awesome combo. I plan on mating mine to a lowly 5D3. :)

Mine is going on my even lower 5D2. I had to choose between the lens or the 5D3. Hopefully I'll be proven I chose well, :D.


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Sep 10, 2012 21:58 |  #115

drewconner wrote in post #14974124 (external link)
Mine is going on my even lower 5D2. I had to choose between the lens or the 5D3. Hopefully I'll be proven I chose well, :D.

Tough choice... I love the 5D3, I could easily replace my 7D for another, the 5D3 copes well with sports, which is why I kept the 7D as the back up/wife's camera.
The new lens is great, and I would think the images on a 5D2 would be identical to that on the 5D3, so may be the best choice in your situation.
If I already had the 24-105 I would choose the 5d3 and save for the 24-70 while the price drops off, as the 5D3 improvements would be more useful to me (better focus, more frames/second, dual AFMA points, etc).


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Sep 11, 2012 00:35 |  #116

Charlie wrote in post #14973491 (external link)
Just think of older classic cars that weighed a ton... all that metal must mean better construction and quality.... not even close to current gen cars loaded with plastics.

Heck, look at the EF-S lenses.

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Sep 11, 2012 02:28 |  #117

DECIDED TO SELL MINE :S


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Sep 11, 2012 02:33 |  #118

tx8koibito wrote in post #14975513 (external link)
DECIDED TO SELL MINE :S

Why ? ???


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Sep 11, 2012 05:27 |  #119

tx8koibito wrote in post #14975513 (external link)
DECIDED TO SELL MINE :S

Please explain? What was not up to your expectation? Just sold my Mk I (in under 25 min) in anticipation of the new guy coming soon.


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Sep 11, 2012 06:52 |  #120

swldstn wrote in post #14975738 (external link)
Please explain? What was not up to your expectation? Just sold my Mk I (in under 25 min) in anticipation of the new guy coming soon.

Everything is fine with it but im more leaning toward my 24-105 as I often shoot it at F8 and over.

does not justify for me to have the 24-70II as it felt the same as my 24-105 in every way except F2.8.

overall, I dont think it a wiser choice over my 24-105 if I constantly shoot over F4.

rather use this money for more prime.


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