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Sep 08, 2012 21:51 |  #31

AdjustThePolarizer wrote in post #14963910 (external link)
This is a grade 11 high school coarse by the way...

Nice that you told us that. In that case, I'd just go with the flow to get the grade. If you have other questions, we'll be glad to help out.


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Sep 09, 2012 01:31 |  #32

What is a portrait? Is it just a smiling headshot of someone?...A portrait "should" tell something about the person & their life. This can be done in a creative way without going OTT. Whether it is art though is questionable.




  
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Sep 09, 2012 18:00 as a reply to  @ post 14960858 |  #33
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Use your imagination, not your photoshop skills...:) Create a self portrait that can describe who you are!!! Using different settings, lighting, and even makeups and costumes to achieve that!!!!


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Sep 09, 2012 20:05 |  #34

Grade 11? Yeah, I'd definitely play along. Doesn't mean you are then forever obligated to follow his teachings outside the class.

He probably has a carpet of dogs playing cards on his wall at home, too.


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Sep 10, 2012 21:06 |  #35

High school, just do what the instructor wants.




  
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Sep 11, 2012 14:28 as a reply to  @ post 14960858 |  #36

AdjustThePolarizer wrote in post #14960639 (external link)
...I was then told I cannot do general portraits throughout the year because in his mind, it is not "art". ... Do you think general portraits are considered art?...

What do you mean by "general portraits"? School pictures? Wal-Mart portraits? Senior pictures? He's right, then. "Most" of these are not art; they are commercial photographs intended for yearbooks and sitting on your parent's piano.

Check this out for inspiration: The Arnold Newman Archive (external link)

Note how Newman told us something about his subject with the setting, lighting, etc.


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Sep 12, 2012 07:29 |  #37

AdjustThePolarizer wrote in post #14960639 (external link)
I was then told I cannot do general portraits throughout the year because in his mind, it is not "art". And if I ever do hand one in, I will get a very poor mark. Instead, he says a portrait like the bottom photo is much better because it is artistic and creative...

Your instructor is extraordinarily narrow minded and frankly, immature. And judging by the fact that he appears to mark work according to his personal taste as opposed to a piece's individual value as an expression of the photographer, he has no business teaching anything to anyone.

It's frankly astounding that someone would try to dictate to you what is or isn't art, and then basically coerce you into a very restrictive and specific mould. That goes against everything that art essentially is - self expression.

What an asshole.


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Sep 12, 2012 10:14 |  #38

Perhaps you can gather some inspiration from this guy. His "portraits" are most deinately art to me.

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Sep 12, 2012 13:25 as a reply to  @ JakAHearts's post |  #39

Some teachers have difficulty in expressing what they are actually trying to get across to their students. Some teachers are very opinionated and direct their students to a direction they believe them to head

Your instructor/teacher may be challenging you, or may not be much of an instructor at all, it is hard for us to judge based on your input.

A good teacher works with challenges from the students, so find a good way to challenge him and see how he responds.

I for one have never been good at "go with the flow", so I would challenge him.

Looking at art is the same as looking at women....'beauty is in the eye of the beholder'


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Sep 12, 2012 19:45 |  #40

onona wrote in post #14980558 (external link)
Your instructor is extraordinarily narrow minded and frankly, immature. And judging by the fact that he appears to mark work according to his personal taste as opposed to a piece's individual value as an expression of the photographer, he has no business teaching anything to anyone.

It's frankly astounding that someone would try to dictate to you what is or isn't art, and then basically coerce you into a very restrictive and specific mould. That goes against everything that art essentially is - self expression.

What an asshole.

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Sep 13, 2012 10:53 |  #41

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... Some teachers are very opinionated and direct their students to a direction they believe them to head...

I personally think that requiring all students take a film class before advanced courses is just wrong, too. It makes as much sense as requiring "Introductory Fingerpainting 101" before other art classes, & in many cases just fills the tuition billfold with added revenue.

Offer film? Yes. Require it? No. There are more than enough areas of digital photography to be covered to fill up a 4-year curriculum.


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Sep 13, 2012 14:24 as a reply to  @ post 14986174 |  #42

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Sep 13, 2012 14:45 |  #43

AdjustThePolarizer wrote in post #14986750 (external link)
First of all, that is not a spelling issue. It is a grammar issue. Second of all, maybe instead of critiquing some 16 year olds post you should worry about your own grammar. "consider a grade 11 course... and that course, would be called English.

Bazinga.


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Sep 13, 2012 14:51 |  #44

AdjustThePolarizer wrote in post #14986750 (external link)
First of all, that is not a spelling issue. It is a grammar issue. Second of all, maybe instead of critiquing some 16 year olds post you should worry about your own grammar. "consider a grade 11 course... and that course, would be called English.

You forgot the apostrophe required for "16 year old's post". See, anyone can be a pedant, but it doesn't really add anything constructive to the discussion, does it? You just made yourself look as bad as the person you were responding to.


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Sep 13, 2012 14:55 |  #45

Are you sure you are in a photography class or photoshop class?




  
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