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Sep 13, 2012 19:47 |  #106

Shadowblade wrote in post #14987921 (external link)
Well, there's certainly no justification in charging $3500 for a 5D3, when the D600 offers almost the same thing at two-thirds the price... and a $2000 5D2 is hardly going to compete when, for $100 more, you get a much more up-to-date camera with no banding issues.

Exactly. ;)




  
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Sep 13, 2012 19:47 |  #107

I wonder if it's the same sensor as Sony is using in the RX1?




  
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Sep 13, 2012 19:53 |  #108

Shadowblade wrote in post #14987947 (external link)
I wonder if it's the same sensor as Sony is using in the RX1?

Not sure. The RX 1 is attractive but, what kills it is the fixed lens.




  
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Sep 13, 2012 19:54 |  #109

Does anyone know if the 5.5 fps is in 14 bit FX Raw mode (and not some sort of sRAW)?


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Sep 13, 2012 19:57 |  #110

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Does anyone know if the 5.5 fps is in 14 bit FX Raw mode (and not some sort of sRAW)?

According to specs it looks like full resolution. :)




  
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Sep 13, 2012 20:07 |  #111

DP review has just posted some real-life sample shots .

These two shots are at iso 6400 :

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ikon-d600-preview-samples (external link)
http://www.dpreview.co​m …ikon-d600-preview-samples (external link)

pretty clean , i haven't tried the D800 so i'm not sure how the D600 iso performance compares to it


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Sep 13, 2012 20:09 |  #112

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Looks to be a decent body if you want full-frame but are really strapped for cash, but the D800 is less than $1000 more (less than the price of a decent lens) and gives you 50% more pixels, better AF, CF card compatibility and a sturdier body. If you can benefit from either more resolution or better AF, there's little reason not to go for the D800 instead.

Size/weight perhaps, the D600 is the size/weight of a D7000 almost, which makes it a hair lighter to carry around than the D800 which i believe is a bit heftier...

Also if you are looking to switch from say, Sony or Canon, then all the money you save on the body that can be put into lenses the better... $900 is another lens easily...

IE, Sell all my gear and I can get a D800 and maybe 2 lenses, Sell all my gear and get a D600 and I can just about swing 4 lenses and cover most of what my current system covers (IE, No loss in capability) Even then its a tough decision because thats just lenses, Not replacing my speedlites or anything...


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Sep 13, 2012 20:10 |  #113

Mitch.A wrote in post #14988022 (external link)
DP review has just posted some real-life sample shots .

These two shots are at iso 6400 :

http://www.dpreview.co​m …ikon-d600-preview-samples (external link)
http://www.dpreview.co​m …ikon-d600-preview-samples (external link)

pretty clean , i haven't tried the D800 so i'm not sure how the D600 iso performance compares to it

Yeah i love what im seeing from it.. if they post macros or flowers that could be the death of me :(


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Sep 13, 2012 20:20 |  #114

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According to specs it looks like full resolution. :)

Thanks. Looks like a really good value.

The only things right now that would keep me from buying are the dual SD slots, 1/4000s max shutter-speed and 1/200s x-sync. I also have a feeling that the D700 AF is better, but we'll have to see.

I'd be a D800 owner today if it had 24 MP and 6 fps in FX mode. Maybe there will be a D800S in a year or two :)


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Sep 14, 2012 02:38 |  #115

KenjiS wrote in post #14988032 (external link)
Size/weight perhaps, the D600 is the size/weight of a D7000 almost, which makes it a hair lighter to carry around than the D800 which i believe is a bit heftier...

Also if you are looking to switch from say, Sony or Canon, then all the money you save on the body that can be put into lenses the better... $900 is another lens easily...

IE, Sell all my gear and I can get a D800 and maybe 2 lenses, Sell all my gear and get a D600 and I can just about swing 4 lenses and cover most of what my current system covers (IE, No loss in capability) Even then its a tough decision because thats just lenses, Not replacing my speedlites or anything...

Just out of interest would you go with the 24-85 f/3.5-5.6, 24-70 f/2.8 or the 24-120 f/4. Me I'd be tempted with the 24-120 f/4


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Sep 14, 2012 02:42 |  #116

IF you are looking for the best IQ, Nikon 24-70mm f2.8.

The Nikon 24-120mm f4 VRII is also good but the former provides better bokeh and is a tad sharper so I sold my 24-120mm f4 and kept the 24-70mm f2.8. I don't have any interest with the new Nikon 24-85mm lens and it is actually f3.5 - 4.5.


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Sep 14, 2012 03:39 |  #117

jdizzle wrote in post #14987913 (external link)
I'll believe when I see it. Canon hasn't been impressive with their recent offerings. :rolleyes:

Shadowblade wrote in post #14987921 (external link)
Well, there's certainly no justification in charging $3500 for a 5D3, when the D600 offers almost the same thing at two-thirds the price... and a $2000 5D2 is hardly going to compete when, for $100 more, you get a much more up-to-date camera with no banding issues.

Agreed. I can see that it's a fair argument that the 5D3 and D800 aren't better or worse than one another - they both have pros and cons that will mean one is much more suited than the other to some photographers. The extra cost of the 5D3 does sour things a little, but they still compete.

The D600 blows that out of the water. Dropping the 5D3 price closer to the D600 (and introducing a high-res body to compete with the D800) would align Canon nicely - and arguably even put them slightly ahead, given the 5D3 is on paper a bit better than the D600. However, it'd be a huge embarrassment for them to reposition the 5D3, would annoy all the guys that bought one for considerably more, and frankly, isn't going to fix the low ISO DR issues (and there's no certainty they'll even introduce a high-res body, or that it would have better DR). Introducing a cut down 5D3 to compete with the D600 looks like a loser before they've even started... I mean, what do they cut down?

Sad really, but if someone without a pile of other DSLR gear asked me for buying advice for FF bodies I'd be hard pressed to not recommend either the D600 or D800 based on their needs. The only reason I'd say 5D3 would be if they primarily shot video.


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Sep 14, 2012 03:46 |  #118

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Basically, to have the best of both worlds. :)

Hi Julian - how do you balance that out then? E.g. D800 + for landscapes & macro, 5D/1D for sports/telephoto? Do you generally travel with both systems, or just choose one for the job?

My other half also shoots Canon, and I have a small(ish) number of lenses that we share between us. I'd be interested in a D800 (or heck, maybe even a D600) for the landscape and macro work, but without buying her a new DSLR too we'd be carrying dupes of a lot of gear due to having two different systems.

EDIT: Forgot to add - I had a flick through your Zenfolio site. Nice pics!


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Sep 14, 2012 06:57 |  #119

I cannot think of a time that I ever took a shot over 1/4000 sec.... so no biggie.


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Sep 14, 2012 08:56 |  #120

This is rumored 6D specs:

http://digicame-info.com/2012/09/eos-6d-20.html (external link)

- Full size CMOS sensor is a newly developed 20.2 million pixel sensor
- DIGIC5 + image processing engine
- Body, which is on par with miniaturized machine APS-C
- The body is magnesium alloy cover only
- Built-in W-Fi
- Built-in GPS
- AF is 11 points, the corresponding central cross sensor F2.8

- Burst 4.5 seconds frame / best
- 30-1/4000 seconds, second sync at 1/180 shutter speed shutter durability of 100,000
- Drip-proof dustproof
- 3-inch 1.04 million dot LCD monitor
- Video - Full HD (1920x1080)
- (50,51200,102400 extension) ISO100-25600
- Creative Auto
- SD / SDHC / SDXC media (corresponding UHS-I)
- (Battery, including media) 755g weight

So how is it 6D vs D600 (IF the 6D specs list is correct :)) ?


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