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Sep 14, 2012 10:10 |  #1

Does anyone worry about degradation of detail using these non-glass filters?

Or does eveyone now use HDR?


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Sep 14, 2012 10:48 |  #2

Not really, as long as you use high-quality filters you shouldn't have any problems. I certainly haven't noticed any IQ loss with my Singh-Ray filters. I'm sure Lee is great too.

HDR might be better for some situations, like with very uneven landscapes, but then you risk motion blur between the different exposures, resulting in sharpness loss. For instance when taking a photo of the sunset at sea with waves hitting the shore, this'd be tricky to get right with HDR vs. a (reverse) ND grad.

I also don't like the look that HDR often gives, but I guess that's more of a matter of personal taste.




  
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Sep 14, 2012 11:07 |  #3

Use quality filters and there isn't any degradation to overall image quality or detail. You can wind up with some color casts to the images, in some situations, but nothing that isn't easily correctable.

No, I don't use HDR or blending, mainly because I don't have the patience to learn to do so. I like using the filters out in the field and being able to do less processing at the computer.

However, the previous poster is correct; blending and/or HDR is an easier way to deal with things like landscapes where you have trees/mountains/buildi​ngs sticking up above the horizon. But, even there, it *can* be done with a bit of finesse (aka "fiddling" :D)

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Sep 14, 2012 11:13 |  #4

Thanks for the responses. B&H sells Hitech resin filters, and I wonder if anyone has an impression of them.


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Sep 14, 2012 11:18 |  #5

I seem to recall that those 'tend' to have a magenta cast introduced when/if you start stacking them. But they should be a reasonable, budget start to figure out if you're really interested in pursuing the filter route.


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Sep 14, 2012 11:51 |  #6

I had a set of the Hitech and got rid of them due to the cast. I now use Lee and am very happy with them.


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Sep 14, 2012 12:40 |  #7

I started off with a Hitech - it worked great by itself. Once you start stacking though, there is pretty significant red/magenta color shifting. I've moved on and now use a set of Lees.

I still keep the Hitech around though, even with my set of Lees - it still works by itself and the color shift can be interesting for sunsets when stacking.


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Sep 14, 2012 13:56 |  #8

HiTech are not too bad but are thinner than Lee. It's low cost option to Lee. From the video I saw Lee tests every filter they make to make sure their filters are flat and does not impact the picture quality. I have not stacked them so do I have not seen any really noticeable color cast with their GND filters. I have not tried their 10 stop filters which seem to have magenta color cast issue.


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Sep 14, 2012 16:09 |  #9

No one uses Tiffin glass ND grads?


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Sep 14, 2012 16:42 |  #10

check the sales forum, some guy just posted few Lee filters.


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Sep 14, 2012 16:42 |  #11

I don't know many people that trust the Tiffen brand....they've had a tendency to be pretty bad products; but I don't know about their NDs.


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Sep 14, 2012 16:48 |  #12

I've ben using Hitech grads and just like others have posted already, they work great individually, but do cause a color cast if you stack them. However, it's very easy to correct in post.

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Sep 14, 2012 19:06 |  #13

bps wrote in post #14992140 (external link)
I've ben using Hitech grads and just like others have posted already, they work great individually, but do cause a color cast if you stack them. However, it's very easy to correct in post.

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Isn't the point of grads to limit soul crushing computer time?


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Sep 14, 2012 20:22 |  #14

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Isn't the point of grads to limit soul crushing computer time?

For me it's to get whatever I can in the field, rather than in PS. I always assume that the shots look better that way.


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Sep 14, 2012 20:50 |  #15

I just don't understand why someone would want to use grads with a color defect. That essentially adds back in a step when the supposed purpose of grads is to help remove a step. Might as well just blend. Since neither work flow (assuming a grad workflow with color defect grads vs. blending in post) has a net reduction in post fiddling time might as well go with the cheaper option.


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