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Sep 14, 2012 19:06 |  #16

Hogloff wrote in post #14992395 (external link)
Would you tip a plumber for getting your stuck drain cleaned up?

If he was quick, clean, busted his ass working hard and did a great job, absolutely.


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Sep 14, 2012 20:39 |  #17
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Thomas Campbell wrote in post #14992672 (external link)
If he was quick, clean, busted his ass working hard and did a great job, absolutely.

Really? Have you?

Personally I expect first class service if I pay 1st class prices. Being quick, clean and working hard is exactly what I expect if I hire someone to do a job for me. Someone who is rude, sloppy messy will not get another job from me and I'll make sure others know about this poor service.




  
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Sep 14, 2012 20:52 |  #18

Only if its as much fun as "Cow tipping" would I tip a photographer


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Sep 14, 2012 20:53 |  #19

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Really? Have you?

Personally I expect first class service if I pay 1st class prices. Being quick, clean and working hard is exactly what I expect if I hire someone to do a job for me. Someone who is rude, sloppy messy will not get another job from me and I'll make sure others know about this poor service.

I've never called a plumber. I can deal with that **** myself. Pun intended.


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Sep 15, 2012 10:09 as a reply to  @ Thomas Campbell's post |  #20

A few times when I didn't charge very much money for something, I got a paid a little more at the end, I took that as an indication I should charge more.

I suppose there's nothing wrong with an appreciative couple sending a check after the wedding, but it's not something which should be expected by either party (and selling prints is a better incentive system). Last weekend, these stupid kids hired me to photograph a surprise proposal (the extravagant ambitions led to repeated serious problems and delays). At the end, the guy stopped me, dug around in his wallet and found a twenty dollar bill and gave it to me in front of everyone like I was a pizza delivery boy. I realize he was appreciative of me trying to salvage his thing, but I'd say not to tip business owners.


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Sep 15, 2012 20:19 |  #21

It's worth a second to just reiterate what Fernando posted. It is a breach of etiquette and an insult to offer a tip to the owner of a business. The owner knows that the success of his or her business is dependent on delivering the best possible service at the best possible price. To imply that the owner of a business needs a tip to be motivated to deliver is insulting.

A tip is a gesture to an employee that their efforts have gone above and beyond what is expected of a wage earner.

Of course, for many jobs the expectation of tipping has become so established that now the standard wages are practically non-existant and a tip has become a requirement for all but the most egregiously bad performance. Stiff your waitress now, and you are not depriving her of a nice gesture, you are making her work for free. She should be terrible before that happens.


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Sep 15, 2012 21:12 |  #22

I would have to say "no" to tipping.


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Sep 15, 2012 21:53 as a reply to  @ CMfromIL's post |  #23

I tip workers but generally not business owners. I have never really thought about it before as to why I feel this way.




  
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Sep 15, 2012 22:05 |  #24

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I tip workers but generally not business owners. I have never really thought about it before as to why I feel this way.

You must have an innate sense of common etiquette.

There's a bunch of commonly accepted conventions that are falling to the wayside, and this is probably not for the best. Things that are becoming more common but which are not acceptable by conventional etiquette:

1) Tipping the owner of a business (implies owner need incentive to perform for his/her own business)
2) Bridal or baby showers hosted by relatives of the bride/mother. (Implication is a shakedown promoted by the family....host should be a friend).
3) Outright requests for cash or very detailed requests for gifts from brides. (Implies invitation to event is some type of quid quo pro).

Of course, the repulsive notion that wedding guests are little more than beneficiaries of the preceedings is quite common. I can't tell you how often I've heard comments implying that guests 'owe' a present equal to the cost of their entertainment. The concept of hospitality is apparently dead.


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Sep 15, 2012 22:13 as a reply to  @ JeffreyG's post |  #25

3) Outright requests for cash or very detailed requests for gifts from brides. (Implies invitation to event is some type of quid quo pro).

In the Philippines, the custom is not to open wedding gifts until after all the guests have departed. The reason? Some guests are poorer than others, so gifts are opened in private so as not to embarrass anyone.




  
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Sep 15, 2012 22:20 |  #26

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In the Philippines, the custom is not to open wedding gifts until after all the guests have departed. The reason? Some guests are poorer than others, so gifts are opened in private so as not to embarrass anyone.

In the US and Europe, the convention is that wedding gifts are delivered directly to the bride and groom and are not carried and presented at the reception.

Aside from the standard niceties, one of the points of the thank you card is to make sure that presents are indeed received.

Again, it is not standard etiquette to bring presents to a reception, and it would be very non-standard for the couple to open gifts at the reception in front of all of the guests.


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Sep 15, 2012 22:30 |  #27

I've been to a good number of US weddings where gifts were opened at the reception. Maybe there are regional differences.




  
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