kfreels wrote in post #15001265
I don't get all the complaints. The market position of this camera is for it to be an entry level full-frame camera. Some of the specs on the Nikon are better. So what? The D600 can't shoot faster than 1/4000. Canon has superior specs in a few other areas as well. They aren't "Handing" anything to Nikon.
As for as "things that matter", well, different things matter to different people. Anyone who thinks that 1/8000 is less important than an extra few megapixels just isn't shooting the same types of shots. Personally I could care less about a few megapixels. 20 is plenty for my needs. It's an ideal balance of resolution and file size for me. ISO 25,600 native is much more useful for me than 6400 on the D600. To me, 6400 is "underwhelming". This is the camera I have been waiting to add to my equipment list. I have my 7D for most of the stuff that I do. But when I need higher ISO or need to do portraits, then I can use the 6D. I expect I'll be buying one as soon as they are available.
Given the prices being the same on the two, I would say the higher ISO and faster top shutter speed are more important than an extra few MP and 1 extra fps or a bunch of extra focus points. On my 7D I probably use only about 11 anyways.
For what it is meant to be, I think this camera is "ideal". It isn't earth shattering, but it doesn't need to be....it fits the market position it is seeking very well and it certainly isn't anything to be embarrassed about. Spot focus, 25,600 native ISO and 1/8000 shutter speeds are not "gimmicks".
This. I agree here.
Canon placed this model exactly where the intended. It's meant to compliment the 60D.
Basically the enthusiast models were split starting with the 7D and 60D. Canon now has 4 distinct levels. Entry, Consumer, Enthusiast, Pro. The original DEOS consumer cameras were the xxD models. Everyone loved to call them "semi pro", but in reality the bodies were based off of the film EOS élan models which was one step above the entry level film Rebels. Above the Elan models were the EOS A2 and EOS 3, notice a similarity? Then as now on top was the 1 series. The slight blending here comes from the APS-C and FF mucking up the waters. The SLR 35mm camera used film and it came in one size for this type body.
Really, where did the rest of you expect the 6D to fit? The 5DIII already is a semi pro body, with a pro level AF system, at a consumer price point, yeah it's above the original price point of the original 5D, but it rests nicely between the Consumer FF 6D, and the Prosumer 5DIII now. As it sits right now the 5DIII risks stealing some sales from the 1 series, just as the excellent EOS 3 did.
If the 6D had all you are expecting it to have, it would be a 5DIII, you all seem to be expecting a 5DIII at a 5DII price. The 7D was way ahead of the 5DII and now has a FF model that carries a lot of the same features in the 5DIII. So the Canon line is back to where it was in the mid 90s. Rebel, XXD XD consumer, XD enthusiast, and 1 pro.
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