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Sep 17, 2012 06:02 |  #136

Osiriz wrote in post #15002189 (external link)
So with your logic, shouldn't this new, as you call it "Rebel FF", have more than 1 cross-type point?
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Nice straw man, but
1. I never called it anything.
2. That's not by my logic at all. I implied it was akin to the rebel series in that it's the entry level camera of Canon's FF lineup, like the XXXD/XXXXD's are to the entire series.


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Sep 17, 2012 06:06 |  #137

Not sure what to make of it yet. At first glance, Canon puts this camera a half step behind the D600. Unless the new sensor is spectacular, I wouldn't have much interest in it. I'm not excited about the AF system, frankly. Then again, I'm spoiled by the 5D3 so that's probably understandable.


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Sep 17, 2012 06:07 |  #138

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The spec sheet may not live up to the D600, but do we actually know the price yet? If it's significantly less than the D600 then Canon will be on to a winner and it will sell...

That's debatable, it's ISO performance is stronger than the D600. It may have less AF points but the 6D's have better low light sensitivity, and as KenjiS points out, the D600 cross types are all in the centre. The frame rate, 4.5fps vs 5.5fps, well neither camera is really a sports camera anyway.
The important thing is image quality though, and we won't know that until someone runs detailed tests on the sensor. Seeing as Nikons have been beating Canons for a while in dynamic range though I don't have much confidence in Canon winning here.


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Sep 17, 2012 06:10 |  #139

Sirrith wrote in post #15002214 (external link)
So does this mean it becomes less useful if you have a faster lens? I'm lost.


It is capable of standard precision for vertical axis and horizontal axis with any lens f5.6 or faster.

However, when an f2.8 lens is mounted, the vertical axis becomes high precision.

It's no different from most of Canon's low- and mid-range cameras, including the 5D2, 60D, and the Rebels.




  
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Sep 17, 2012 06:26 |  #140
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Just read the specs. The entire thing seems like a half-step to me. Still debating, but my initial reaction is to continue to hold on until I can get a 5D3. I want to see the AF system in action.


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Sep 17, 2012 06:29 |  #141

DP-Reviews Summary for the 6D says it all:

Quote: "Overall, though, it's difficult to shake the feeling that the EOS 6D simply lacks the 'wow' factor of its main rival. Whereas Nikon seems to have taken the approach of taking away as little as possible from D800 when creating the D600, Canon appears almost to have gone the other way, removing as much as it thinks it can get away with at the price. The result is the kind of conservative, slightly unimaginative design that's become the company's hallmark. It's still bound to be a very good camera, of course; just perhaps not quite as good as it could be."




  
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Sep 17, 2012 06:43 |  #142

-The 6D is proof that Canon doesn't have the R&D to keep up with the competition.
-Canon simply went to its parts bin and threw a bunch of newer and older tech together to make this camera.
-They have the gall to give us YET again that ancient AF???
-And then they price it at the same price as the D600, even with lower pixel count???

The 6D is nothing but a hastily thrown together desperate attempt by an arrogant company that didn't see the D600 coming.


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Sep 17, 2012 06:45 |  #143

The 6D is no upgrade for 5DII owners.

The 5DIII and D600 remain my best options. I am REALLY thinking about jumping ship.


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Sep 17, 2012 06:50 |  #144

SchnellerGT wrote in post #15002328 (external link)
The 6D is no upgrade for 5DII owners.

The 5DIII and D600 remain my best options. I am REALLY thinking about jumping ship.

I did. Nikon has no banding. :) Not completely but, shooting both systems. :)




  
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Sep 17, 2012 06:52 |  #145

SchnellerGT wrote in post #15002328 (external link)
The 6D is no upgrade for 5DII owners.

The 5DIII and D600 remain my best options. I am REALLY thinking about jumping ship.

If I had your gear, I'd do it.

But here I am, stuck with a set of 12 lenses (7 of them being L class), and a whole box of other Canon stuff.. Such a pain to sell it all.




  
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Sep 17, 2012 07:08 |  #146

Someone at DPreview stated that there is only one cross type point. I'm not sure where this info came from so I can't back it. It will be interesting to find out how many points there actually are. If Canon did go 11 cross type would that not just shut down 5D2 sales? I'm probably going to purchase the 5D3 this week.


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Sep 17, 2012 07:09 |  #147

I think this will be a great 7D Companion camera for a dual purpose shooter. Or for still work like studio, portraiture and landscape. Essentially, just as they intended, where the 5D MkII was.

GPS and WiFi are great (assuming they work well..), but releasing another camera with the 5DII AF is a disappointment, and 1/4000 is poopy, but I do understand the need to protect their other models.

And lolol at Scene modes. WTF @ Single SD Slot.

I absolutely see a place in the market/the lineup for this camera. Unfortunately, this means the 5D3's price wont drop as quickly as we all hoped. Me? I think a 5D3 and a pair of 7Ds will work better for what/how I shoot.


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Sep 17, 2012 07:11 |  #148

Nikon execs are laughing their way to the bank at this point.


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Sep 17, 2012 07:12 |  #149

digital paradise wrote in post #15002367 (external link)
Someone at DPreview stated that there is only one cross type point. I'm not sure where this info came from so I can't back it. It will be interesting to find out how many points there actually are. If Canon did go 11 cross type would that not just shut down 5D2 sales? I'm probably going to purchase the 5D3 this week.

5D2 is Discontinued, and Canon doesnt give a crap about the used market.

DPReview has a camera in their hands. I certainly believe it is single cross type.

Per Canon:

A new 11-point AF including a high-precision center cross-type AF point with EV -3 sensitivity allows focusing in extreme low-light conditions
http://www.usa.canon.c​om …ameras/slr_came​ras/eos_6d (external link)


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Sep 17, 2012 07:14 |  #150

SchnellerGT wrote in post #15002372 (external link)
Nikon execs are laughing their way to the bank at this point.

I dont understand this mentality. Most of the people who will be buying a Full Frame camera, or any $2000+ camera, will not be first timers. Most will already have lenses. Most will not want to go through the hassle of selling all their lenses.


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