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Sep 17, 2012 13:29 |  #436
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I just perused the Canon spec sheet for the 6D. I must admit, I am warming up to it. Initially, I didn't like the 1/180 sync speed. Ok, it is a bigger shutter on a consumer FF body. I am spoiled by my 60's 1/250, but HSS is available on EX flashes. I don't like no built-in flash commander, but I have 2 550EX units, both of which do 3 groups, compared to my 60D only doing 2 groups. I like the AUTO ISO settings; they are similar to the 5D3 with settable min, max, and minimum shutter speed. I also like the 2,3,5,7 shot bracketing capability. The 1/4000 bothers me a bit. And I still want to see how the AF systems works and how customizable it is. For $2000+ I want a bit of it, even though I use center-point only 90% of the time. It is still in contention for my upcoming FF upgrade.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:30 |  #437

SoCalTiger wrote in post #15004094 (external link)
17-50mm on your T2i would be equivalent to a 10-31mm lens on a FF camera. So, it would probably be too wide anyway unless you mainly used the wide end. You'd really want something like a 24-70 to be the rough equivalent on FF.

You're math is wrong. 17-50 on APS-C gives the same field of view as 28-90 on full frame.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:31 |  #438

SoCalTiger wrote in post #15004094 (external link)
17-50mm on your T2i would be equivalent to a 10-31mm lens on a FF camera. So, it would probably be too wide anyway unless you mainly used the wide end. You'd really want something like a 24-70 to be the rough equivalent on FF.

Huh?!? The 17-50 is a 17-50 on FF. the 17-50 on his current camera is equiv to 27-80mm.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:32 |  #439

CosmoKid wrote in post #15004019 (external link)
the 17-50 IS an EF-S lens. not made by Canon, but Tamron specifically made it for crop bodies.

a $400 17-50 that performs as well as the Tamron does on a FF body would be awesome.

The Tamron 17-50 is made for crop bodies and has a smaller image circle, but there is one MAJOR difference from EF-S lenses: The rear element does not extend past the lens mount as in EF-S lenses. There is no way a FF mirror can hit the back of a Tamron (or Sigma, or Tokina) lens. ONLY Canon EF-S lenses extend past the mount into the mirror box area.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:32 |  #440

KhanhD wrote in post #15004108 (external link)
Its not possible on the 7D or 5D MkIII

On the 7D it is not only possible but it is also fairly easy. Yes it takes about 5 minutes and a Phillips/cross screwdriver, but anyone who would be able to replace the focusing screen in any other camera can do it on the 7D too. And you can buy other types of focusing screens for it too.
See http://www.focusingscr​een.com/work/7den.htm (external link) for details. I did it myself once already.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:34 |  #441

Billginthekeys wrote in post #15004157 (external link)
So, you came to a Canon website to ask if getting $1,200 off a brand new, hasn't even hit shelves yet, Nikon camera with lens is a good deal? Smells fishy to me.

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Sep 17, 2012 13:35 |  #442

CosmoKid wrote in post #15004019 (external link)
the 17-50 IS an EF-S lens. not made by Canon, but Tamron specifically made it for crop bodies.

No, it is not. It is an EF mount lens that does not project an image circle large enough for a full frame sensor but it does not have an EF-S mount. Most 3rd party "DX" lenses will mount on a full frame camera just fine and will not have issues with hitting the mirror but they will have -extreme- vignetting. A lens with an EF-S mount has a little tab piece that prevents it from attaching to the camera at all.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:36 |  #443

Am I too late to bash on the single cross-type AF point? Has it been already beaten into the ground? I hope not, because I'm overdue for a good rant :D

Otherwise it looks like a nice camera. But that's a big "otherwise". Can somebody tell me why one would buy this over a much cheaper 5DII?




  
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Sep 17, 2012 13:38 |  #444

SoCalTiger wrote in post #15004094 (external link)
17-50mm on your T2i would be equivalent to a 10-31mm lens on a FF camera. So, it would probably be too wide anyway unless you mainly used the wide end. You'd really want something like a 24-70 to be the rough equivalent on FF.


Ok cool. I didn't know that.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:39 |  #445

AOXOMOXOA wrote in post #15003939 (external link)
well all that information was great and very sad.

Man I really want to replace my T2i. I never liked it. I always thought it had a problem I even sent it to Canon they said it also had a problem. They told me they fixed it but still I never liked it. where do I go from here?

How about T4i, 60D or 7D or used 5D mark II or used 50D? You have plenty of upgrade choices.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:41 |  #446

6D is Made In Japan and D600 is Made In Thailand, thus the price-vs-functions ratio difference.



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Sep 17, 2012 13:41 |  #447

I love my 5D2. It really does all I need it to do, and in the future if I will be shooting sports enough, I will be picking up a 1D body. I dont see anyone going from a 5D2 to a 6D or D700 owners going to D600.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:42 as a reply to  @ mwsilver's post |  #448

AOXOMOXOA wrote in post #15003939 (external link)
well all that information was great and very sad.

Man I really want to replace my T2i. I never liked it. I always thought it had a problem I even sent it to Canon they said it also had a problem. They told me they fixed it but still I never liked it. where do I go from here?


I looked at your sig and you don't really have a huge investment in Canon lenses, so why not consider the Nikon D600 as an upgrade from your T2i? You'll gain full-frame, better AF, faster shooting speed, etc compared to your T2i. And you'll gain the very useful features of the built in flash being a CLS (wireless flash) commander.

Another benefit of going with the D600 is that the Tamron 28-75mm f/2.8 (the FF equivalent of the your 17-50) focuses MUCH faster on Nikon bodies than it does on Canon bodies. This is because the Canon version uses a weak in-lens motor, whereas the Nikon version uses the in-camera body screw drive motor.

The non-built in motor version of the 28-85mm f/2.8 actually has pretty blazing fast AF on Nikon bodies:
http://www.youtube.com …POGQ9Jkk&featur​e=youtu.be (external link)

Compared to the same lens on a Canon body:
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Tony_Stark wrote in post #15004252 (external link)
I love my 5D2. It really does all I need it to do, and in the future if I will be shooting sports enough, I will be picking up a 1D body. I dont see anyone going from a 5D2 to a 6D or D700 owners going to D600.

I was debating between D600 and D700 and ended up going with the D700 for the better AF, speed, etc. However, the notable difference between 5D2/6D and D700/D600 is that the D600 has a clearly better sensor than the D700 (esp. in resolution), whereas I have a feeling the 6D's sensor won't be that much better than the 5D2's.


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Sep 17, 2012 13:43 |  #449

Yohan Pamudji wrote in post #15004215 (external link)
Am I too late to bash on the single cross-type AF point? Has it been already beaten into the ground? I hope not, because I'm overdue for a good rant :D

Otherwise it looks like a nice camera. But that's a big "otherwise". Can somebody tell me why one would buy this over a much cheaper 5DII?

well its possible that itll have better high iso performance? at least that's what im hoping for. also with built-in wifi, you can use your smartphone to control the camera.

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Sep 17, 2012 13:46 |  #450

Tony_Stark wrote in post #15004252 (external link)
I love my 5D2. It really does all I need it to do, and in the future if I will be shooting sports enough, I will be picking up a 1D body. I dont see anyone going from a 5D2 to a 6D or D700 owners going to D600.

that's has never been the intention.



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