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Screw the 7D... I want FF now!

 
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Sep 18, 2012 08:20 |  #16

Some time back I did a high ISO comparison between the T2i and 5d2. Since the T2i sensor is a very close cousin to the 7D (T2i does a little better), it might be a decent comparison on what to expect.

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Sep 18, 2012 08:36 |  #17

The center AF point on the new 6D will be the king of Canon low-light autofocusing at -3 EV, although there's a lot of complaining about the other 10 points, even though no one doing the complaining has actually used the camera and there are no reviews available at this point. If its AF system and high-ISO image quality prove to be very good to excellent, it sounds like exactly the camera you're looking for.


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Sep 18, 2012 08:44 |  #18

Yes, I'm looking for better high iso noise performance. I'm also wanting to be able to have the proper focal length or at least I think thats what I want. My 70-200 is an outdoor lens only on the 7D and I think with the FF I would def be able to use it alot more indoor since it's equivalent to 43mm on crop on wide end where on my old 17-50 I was 45mm-50mm a ton and always wishing for a bit more. Also on a wide lens for example I had at one point and want again the sigma 10-20 which is equal to 16-32mm however on FF I can get the 17-40 which is F4 constant and is a better range than the 10-20 gives on the focal equiv.

Actually never thought of the 40mm 2.8, thats not a bad idea. although I like the 35 f2 also

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Sep 18, 2012 09:14 |  #19

It all depends on what you want to do with the camera. It sounds like FF it what you need/want, so why not?


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Sep 18, 2012 09:16 |  #20

So what ISOs are you trying to shoot at where you don't get the results you are needing?

I have a little experience in that area. ;)

Also, for lenses, I would strongly suggest getting something like the 17-55 2.8 IS. It is a wonderful indoor lens for the APS-C, especially for AFing on kids and IS for handshake. Between getting ISO 3200 and maybe 6400 keepers and this lens, you might be surprised how much more fun shooting indoor pics of the family can be. :)


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Sep 18, 2012 09:20 |  #21

Cause you are selling more than half of your equps, have you thought about sell all and go to nikon? They have good image quality, better iso performance than canon counterparts, and great basic lens. I think D7000 or D700 is a good place to go.


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Sep 18, 2012 09:26 |  #22

skycolt wrote in post #15008553 (external link)
Cause you are selling more than half of your equps, have you thought about sell all and go to nikon? They have good image quality, better iso performance than canon counterparts, and great basic lens. I think D7000 or D700 is a good place to go.

Seems like overkill considering with good lenses and shooting technique/post processing, you can generate images that would be next to impossible to differentiate manufacturers.

ISO 12800 isn't too ugly.

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Sep 18, 2012 09:34 as a reply to  @ TeamSpeed's post |  #23

TeamSpeed is the King of high ISO on the 7D. Before you jump, you may want to take a quick look at his high ISO thread. I don't have the link handy but I'm sure he'll be glad to post it. It is well worth the read and can make a huge difference in the results.


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Sep 18, 2012 09:48 |  #24

Don't sell your 85mm! It is a great lens on a 5DII. :)


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Sep 18, 2012 09:49 |  #25

Teamspeed's High-ISO thread can be found via the link in his sig. But here it is:

photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=1079217

Oh, and I have a T3i and got a 5DII last week. I intend to keep both - they are different beasts, and have different uses, IMHO. And my EF lens collection just effectively doubled in number of available Focal Lengths.

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Sep 18, 2012 10:09 |  #26

Hi TeamSpeed, I don't mean to sell Nikon in a canon forum. I also use 7D. Actually I am a big fan of your high ISO photograph. It's an art to get so clean image on 7D. But sometimes I don't feel like to go through all the process to get a clean image. I used D90 for a short while. The clean image out of the camera left me very good impression.


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Sep 18, 2012 10:19 |  #27

One thing that I see though (not limited to 7D) is that once you crank up the ISO the colors become really really dull.

Yes I can PP it and run NR and all and make it look "clean", but it still looks "off" to me.



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Sep 18, 2012 10:20 |  #28

Get a FF of your choice. Add say 35mm f1.4. Much better than any 1.6x cropper IMHO. Personally I will take even old 5dc with some nice glass than 5dmk2 and say 35mm f2.

You can shoot real high ISO but without good light, pictures still look crappy with any camera.


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Sep 18, 2012 11:07 |  #29

kfreels wrote in post #15008636 (external link)
TeamSpeed is the King of high ISO on the 7D. Before you jump, you may want to take a quick look at his high ISO thread. I don't have the link handy but I'm sure he'll be glad to post it. It is well worth the read and can make a huge difference in the results.

+1 TS is great...

I dunno, People are shocked over my 7D's results sometimes, Apparently my shots look quite FF in terms of color and contrast....

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I had to dig for a few 3200 shots...tis been a while since i used 3200 apparently

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Sep 18, 2012 11:15 as a reply to  @ KenjiS's post |  #30

I would say : DO IT !
I did it and i do not regret it for a second...

If it is not a problem for U or others, here my link to Flickr :
Most of them are shot with a 5D Mark II + 24-105 OR de 70-200 /f4 with IS

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But a price that is 2x.... will the picture quality be 2x ? That's up to U...
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