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Thread started 21 Sep 2012 (Friday) 04:18
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POLL: "Which one is better for City, HDR and Nature?"
Canon EF-S 10-22mm f/3.5-4.5 USM
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Tokina 11-16mm f/2.8 AT-X 116 Pro DX
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Canon 10 22 Vs Tokina 11 16

 
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Sep 21, 2012 04:18 |  #1

Hey there, I'm using canon 500d, I generally take the photos of nature and cities and cant decide which one to choose. So what do you recommend me to buy, thanks.




  
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Sep 21, 2012 08:38 |  #2

10-22, more versatile, better flare resistance (which matters for nature and cities).

I only recommend the tokina over the canon when astrophotography is the main subject. For everything else, the advantages of the tokina are not sufficient to outweigh its weaknesses (slower AF, clumsy MF clutch, short range, poor flare resistance).


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Sep 21, 2012 08:41 |  #3
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I would say, since the 500d doesn't have great high ISO quality, the 11-16 could come in handy if being shot in lower light.




  
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Sep 21, 2012 08:44 |  #4

^^^ i used to use the 10-22 on my 400d and it was fine in low light. of course, i didnt really use it for fast moving objects in low light.


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Sep 21, 2012 08:48 as a reply to  @ treck_dialect's post |  #5

I really like and have great luck with the Canon 10-22 on a Canon 7D.


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Sep 21, 2012 09:00 as a reply to  @ Calicajun's post |  #6

I really like and have great luck with the Tokina 11-16 on a Canon 7D.

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Sep 22, 2012 06:25 |  #7

Sirrith wrote in post #15023056 (external link)
10-22, more versatile, better flare resistance (which matters for nature and cities).

I only recommend the tokina over the canon when astrophotography is the main subject. For everything else, the advantages of the tokina are not sufficient to outweigh its weaknesses (slower AF, clumsy MF clutch, short range, poor flare resistance).

I own both and agree with everything Sirrith says above.


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Sep 22, 2012 07:57 |  #8

I owned the 10-22, sold it and purchased the 11-16. I think the 11-16 is sharper which I decided to live with it even with the few flaws Sirrith made.

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Sep 22, 2012 09:54 |  #9

I have owned both lenses...for months, I had both in my possession. I found that I do not miss the 10mm FL, and I didn' necessarily miss having 17-22mm on the Tokina, simply because I am not an UWA fanatic and my Canon 17-55mm provided the 'missing' 17-22mm range. OTOH, I have long found that I am a low available light shooter and the f/2.8 is far more satisfactory to me that the variable and slower max aperture of the Canon 10-22mm.

Sirrith points out differences that may mean more to you.
I haven't found as much issue with flare, probably due to the types of shooting I do, and the fast fixed max aperture benefit overrides the flare issue.
The less convenient manual focus clutch isn't that much of a factor to me, because the very deep DOF of the lens reduces the significance of any focus error. The Tokina focus clutch is still a lot more convenient than Tamron's switch. I generally have not found much need for manual focus, especially given the relatively poor precision bright focus screens in today's dSLRs compared to yesterday's manual focus SLRs.

In the end, after simultaneously owning both Canon and Tokina, I sold the Canon. Haven't regretted that decision.


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Sep 22, 2012 10:30 |  #10

Neither...

For my money the Tokina 12-24/4 was a better choice. That was wide enough for my purposes and at the time over $300 cheaper than the 10-22, yet seemed better built and almost equal in image quality. I also wanted a non-variable aperture lens if possible, in case I found use for it with manual studio strobes (where a variable aperture can be a pain in the arse).

When I bought, the 11-16 was relatively new, considered it but I knew for certain I didn't need f2.8 in an UWA lens (above sample shot sure isn't at f2.8) and didn't want to pay $100 more for that, while at the same time having to give up so much focal length range. That turned out to be a good call, too, since the 11-16 is more prone to flare than the 12-24 or the 10-22. Maybe the newer version with somewhat improved coatings is better.

I also played around with the Sigma and Tamron but didn't feel they held up to either of the Tokinas and the Canon in image quality. Since then there have been several new Sigmas offered, though, which I haven't had opportunity to try. I don't know if the Tamron has gone through any changes or not.

The Tokinas in Canon mount have had very mild updates done... Supposedly just some changes in the lens coatings (the Nikon mount version got a focusing motor added, a much bigger deal).


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Sep 22, 2012 10:39 |  #11

You'll be happy with either. Both are excellent lenses. I've had both but the Tokina has remained. It's like having 6 primes in one lens. The build quality and resolving power are top-class. And when you hold the Tokina, you just know you've got some serious quality in your hands.




  
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Sep 22, 2012 10:58 as a reply to  @ LightRules's post |  #12

After researching when I was in the market for a UWA, those were the two choices I came up with. Both are supposed to be excellent lenses.

I went with the Canon because it had a slightly wider range... going up to 22mm vs 16mm.

I don't think you can lose with either.


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Sep 22, 2012 20:02 |  #13

Realize the reason you're buying a UWA is not for 15-22mm. It's for 10 or 11.

I own the 10-22 for work and I don't need low light ability even though 3.5 isn't that far away from 2.8...

If you need the best focus on the other hand get the Canon hands down. Other than that, as one of the others have said, flip a coin.


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Sep 22, 2012 23:13 |  #14

Wilt wrote in post #15027768 (external link)
I have owned both lenses...for months, I had both in my possession. I found that I do not miss the 10mm FL, and I didn' necessarily miss having 17-22mm on the Tokina, simply because I am not an UWA fanatic and my Canon 17-55mm provided the 'missing' 17-22mm range. OTOH, I have long found that I am a low available light shooter and the f/2.8 is far more satisfactory to me that the variable and slower max aperture of the Canon 10-22mm.

Sirrith points out differences that may mean more to you.
I haven't found as much issue with flare, probably due to the types of shooting I do, and the fast fixed max aperture benefit overrides the flare issue.
The less convenient manual focus clutch isn't that much of a factor to me, because the very deep DOF of the lens reduces the significance of any focus error. The Tokina focus clutch is still a lot more convenient than Tamron's switch. I generally have not found much need for manual focus, especially given the relatively poor precision bright focus screens in today's dSLRs compared to yesterday's manual focus SLRs.

In the end, after simultaneously owning both Canon and Tokina, I sold the Canon. Haven't regretted that decision.

I did not have any flare issues as well and both had about the same amount of CA. Although correctable, I really hate CA.


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Sep 23, 2012 05:18 |  #15

My oft-posted flare comparison...

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