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Thread started 18 Sep 2012 (Tuesday) 09:12
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POLL: "Which would you rather, 6D or a 5D2 ?"
I do not own a full frame: 6D
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33%
I do not own a full frame: 5D2
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I alreaedy own a full frame: 6D
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14.3%
I already own a full frame: 5D2
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39.2%

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Poll: 6D or 5D2

 
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Sep 18, 2012 22:04 |  #46

I ain't voting- the poll is missing a few items;
Off the top of my head there should be
o I do not own a full frame; 5D3
o I do not own a full frame; 1DX
o I do own a full frame; 5D3
o I do own a full frame; 1DX
o I do not own a full frame; would not waste my money on a 6D or 5D2
o I do own a full frame; would not waste my money on a 6D or 5D2

I would choose the last one anyways.


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Sep 18, 2012 22:09 |  #47

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For people in the GTA/Canada 5D2 is $1799 at Aden Camera

for how long i don't know.

Same thing is at Vistek ;)


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Sep 18, 2012 22:16 |  #48

I might add - I find it interesting that the introduction of a new camera- one that everyone has supposedly been waiting for- well- the results are kind of strange;

Those that don't have a full frame - about 3/4 of them would select the new model- the 6D. (56 (6D)/19(5D2)(total=75)​)
Those that have have a full frame- only 17% - yes- 17% would select the 6D- and the remainder would select the 3 year old model over it ( 14 (6D)/68(5D2) total=84 ) ;; in other words- those that have a full frame would not choose the 6D! Wow! That should be telling those without a full frame- something!
There are already a number who state that they would select something else- apparently not voting ?


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Sep 22, 2012 04:02 |  #49

A lot of people are suggesting holding off... the tricky part is.... hold off long enough and you may lose out on the opportunity to purchase a new/retail 5Dii because they seem to be going on sale everywhere. By the time the 6D is out, 5Dii will only be in the used and refurbished option. Do consider that.

Oh and I didn't participate in the poll because I own a 5D (classic) ;)


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Sep 22, 2012 05:16 |  #50

Sirrith wrote in post #15011265 (external link)
Its interesting to note here that the overwhelming majority of people who don't already own a FF camera would pick the 6D whereas those who already own one (presumably a 5DII) pick the 5DII.

What I am noticing is that the 6d gets the most hate from 5dii owners and 7d owners. Anyone liking the idea is in an almost derogatory way referred to as a "rebel owner" or oddly enough 5d3 or 1d owners that see it for what it is. From a non biased standpoint, I am not interested in a poll with a bunch of 5dii owners voting for what they have, nor 7d owners who have traditionally on here argued with 5d owners about how ff is over rated etc. and have a chip on their shoulder as well so to speak acting like any AF system not as good as the 7d is a camera they cannot use. I am being very general with these comments, but anyone who has read many threads on here has to at least know where I am coming from.

Owning a business that has expensive machinery, and has to make decisions to not get certain things or things with less features based on the best realistic ROI, I have always found humor in the "need" for "professional" equipment on here. I think that the 6d not being a "professional" grade (whatever that truly means) camera is the main source of all the hate and all the "get a 5dii instead" sentiment. When in reality, true professionals make business decisions all the time based on trade off in specs. The beauty of canon marketing isnt moving rebel owners up to this as much as having EVERYONE percieve their "need" for "professional" cameras and lenses. I understand that sub $5000 cameras are a far cry from six figure machinery, but all things being relative, if producing a low noise ff photo of non fast moving things is 85% of what you shoot, I can't see how this camera sucks as bad as people are making it out to.

My guess would be that in a blind test, the 6d is simply a better camera than the 5dii. It will be more updated, have better af(not awesome af, but much better than 5dii), better ma adjustments and how much less noise remains to be seen, but likely a noticeable amount. Other than the perception of "professional", and a joystick to move to autofocus points that suck anyway :rolleyes: , I am missing the reason to get a 5dii over a 6d in theory(since no real world info yet) other than it has been deemed not cool.


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Sep 22, 2012 05:23 |  #51

I would have to agree with you, Nick.


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Sep 22, 2012 08:58 |  #52

I would like to have 6D.
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Sep 22, 2012 09:25 |  #53

If I was updating from a rebel series and was used to the body layout then I'd go with the 6D. If I was going from a xxD range and could only afford a 5D2 or 6D then I'd go for the 5D2 as the ergonomics are better IMO. However, I'd much rather save up and get the 5D3 than either the other 2.

I had a 5D2 and have since gone on to the 5D3 and that knocks spots off all the other bodies I've had or used. I'm thinking of changing my backup gripped 60D for another 7D though just for better AF and I occasionally need the reach of the crop for wildlife and aviation stuff.


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Sep 22, 2012 09:28 |  #54

Nick3434 wrote in post #15027147 (external link)
What I am noticing is that the 6d gets the most hate from 5dii owners and 7d owners. Anyone liking the idea is in an almost derogatory way referred to as a "rebel owner" or oddly enough 5d3 or 1d owners that see it for what it is. From a non biased standpoint, I am not interested in a poll with a bunch of 5dii owners voting for what they have, nor 7d owners who have traditionally on here argued with 5d owners about how ff is over rated etc. and have a chip on their shoulder as well so to speak acting like any AF system not as good as the 7d is a camera they cannot use. I am being very general with these comments, but anyone who has read many threads on here has to at least know where I am coming from....

I think you're seeing more MkII and 7D owners fall on the hate side just because of the raw numbers. Poking around in other threads I see many with MkIIIs as well as other bodies also denigrating the 6D. It seems to have become a POTN trait as of late. Slam the new camera even before it comes out.


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Sep 22, 2012 09:38 |  #55

gjl711 wrote in post #15027683 (external link)
I think you're seeing more MkII and 7D owners fall on the hate side just because of the raw numbers. Poking around in other threads I see many with MkIIIs as well as other bodies also denigrating the 6D. It seems to have become a POTN trait as of late. Slam the new camera even before it comes out.

I happen to think Canon did right at this price point vs feature set...and am interested in the camera.

However, we shall see how the court of public opinion sees the camera over the next year.


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Sep 22, 2012 09:58 |  #56

I own a 5D Mark II and love the thing. However, I was interested when I heard about the 6D.

6D pros:

- Built-in GPS
- Slightly better AF (though I shoot landscapes/architectur​e...really the AF is of no consequence to me)
- POSSIBLY better high ISO performance, but nobody knows yet, and the 5D2 is no slouch in that department.
- Silent shutter. I love this feature, but thanks to LV on the 5D2, I can have nearly the same thing.

Overall gains: meh...nothing I can't happily live without.

The 5D2 pros:

- Much better button layout plus joystick
- Almost a grand cheaper. If I were to sell my 5D2 now, I'd have to put roughly $800 on top to get a 6D in Canada or Korea.
- It's the perfect size for me. I've been shooting XXD/XD bodies for years, I love the way they handle...the XXXD/60D format is a little cramped for me.
- Slightly better VF coverage (it's only 1%, but the closer I get to 100% the happier I am).
- Uses CF cards. Not a huge deal, but I like CF cards and I have about 50 GB worth of them.

The "upgrades" on the 6D for my purposes are really not that huge...and certainly not worth the $800 I'd have to shell out on top of selling my 5D2. If I don't switch to Nikon (D800), I'm sticking with my camera until at least the 5D Mark IV or until the price of the 5D Mark III comes down very substantially.


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Sep 22, 2012 10:09 |  #57

I agree with Nick as well. Choosing a 4 yr old 5dii over the 6d which without doubt will have better AF as well as be faster responding is confusing. I'm confused by some of the specs but I'd take a 6d over 5dii without doubt.
Regardless, I'm sure the 6d will sell well. Newer models that aren't Rebels tend to get a lot of hate. If your not a 1dx, you're not good enough...on paper. I wouldn't be surprised if a 70d gets announced and gets trashed on the boards because of sheet specs and NO real world use/impressions.


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Sep 22, 2012 10:29 |  #58

I guess it is human nature to have the latest and greatest (for many of us anyway!) but upgrades seem to be coming to fast to enjoy what you just bought!
I am still enjoying using my 5DMKII's and 7D (also my 10D, believe it or not! :D ) and while I have been contemplating a 5DMKIII in the "distant" future, I don't think I'll upgrade any of my camera bodies (especially my 7D)for some time.


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Sep 22, 2012 11:30 |  #59

I should say that obviously 5dii owners would not get a 6d, this is obvious and has nothing to do with the camera. Someone with a t2 has no real compelling reason to get a t3 even though I assume the t3 is mildly a better camera. Yet t2 owners did not bash the t3 or t4 when it came out like 5dii owners are the 6d. This is where someone that spends x amount of money on something "professional" feels like they are special and need to guard that specialness IMO.

I am also sick of people comparing the full on retail price of a not even available 6d to the super awesome $2799 or whatever some people got a 5d3 for. Yes it is relative at first, but really when the dust settles, how long has the original retail price for the 5dii or 7d actually ot been the price or mattered? The 6d will settle down someplace that will make the gap between it and a 5d3 at least a compelling decision, probably a 6d and an L lens or a 5d3 difference.

I am NOT a 6d fanboy, I am just going to go ff in the next 6-9 months and I like my options, from the 5dii, to 6d to 5d3. I am not moving to Nikon because I like/have canon glass and i loke canon body layout and feel/handling and ultimately DR is the only spec that matters to me between the d600 and a canon ff.


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Sep 22, 2012 13:07 |  #60

My guess is that a few months after the release date the 6D will slowly drop down below $1800 or even 20% less that full retail.

I chose 6D coming from a T2i, but if the 5D3 drops down low enough I may consider that as well.


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