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Shot my first pro-sporting event last night. DC United vs Chivas USA

 
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Sep 24, 2012 10:08 |  #1

It was quite and experience for me! A coworker of mine was able to hook me up with press creds. He runs a blog and podcast devoted to everything DC United: www.unitedmania.com (external link). I shot with my Canon 60D and 70-200 2.8L, and 5DII and 24-70 2.8L. Need a longer lens to get down-field action.

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Sep 24, 2012 20:39 |  #2

Crop tighter.


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Sep 24, 2012 23:54 |  #3

Agreed.


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Sep 25, 2012 05:34 |  #4

It'll be grainy and soft if I did.


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Sep 25, 2012 06:01 |  #5

cabinajm wrote in post #15039235 (external link)
It'll be grainy and soft if I did.

Since they're for a web blog, I think you could crop away the dead space and end up with a much, much stronger set.


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Sep 25, 2012 07:33 |  #6

They seem a touch on the hot side to me. Drop your exposure in post about 1/3 to 2/3 and see what you think.


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Sep 25, 2012 09:55 |  #7

k, thanks for the input everyone.


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Sep 25, 2012 10:29 |  #8

Your shutter speed is too slow (1/250) and you should be shooting with aperture wide open to keep the ISO down as much as you can.

In terms of reach, not sure what time MLS games are normally played but a 100-400L might be the ticket. I've shot NASL with only a 80-200/2.8 but I can get on the sidelines.


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Sep 25, 2012 11:08 |  #9

from where I was at, I could only stay on the goal line. What shutter speed should I be shooting? I rarely shoot under lights. When I shot wide open I continually missed focus, but maybe that was because I was trying to push beyond the distance I could reach with the lens? No way I could afford a 100-400L right now. Something I would definitely like to get though... what about a 1.5x or 2.0x teleconverter? That should give me the reach I need at the expense of a stop or two, right?


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Sep 25, 2012 11:22 |  #10

For action I personally try not to go lower than 1/640. That should be fast enough to freeze player motion but you'll still get motion blur on the ball. To freeze the ball you'll need much faster shutter which is hard to achieve at night games.

Even when there's plenty of light the general rule of thumb is to shoot wide open to give the players some pop from the background. Nailing focus is part of the game when shooting sports. When the play is too far away I don't bother shooting for the most part as I know shots will be mediocre at best.

You could look at the 1.4x or 2.0x to get you some reach but I've not used the Canon offerings so can't give you comments on that. Another alternative would be to look at a used Canon 300/f4, you wouldn't need the IS version for this.


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Sep 27, 2012 04:32 |  #11

joeblack2022 wrote in post #15040442 (external link)
For action I personally try not to go lower than 1/640. That should be fast enough to freeze player motion but you'll still get motion blur on the ball. To freeze the ball you'll need much faster shutter which is hard to achieve at night games.

Even when there's plenty of light the general rule of thumb is to shoot wide open to give the players some pop from the background. Nailing focus is part of the game when shooting sports. When the play is too far away I don't bother shooting for the most part as I know shots will be mediocre at best.

You could look at the 1.4x or 2.0x to get you some reach but I've not used the Canon offerings so can't give you comments on that. Another alternative would be to look at a used Canon 300/f4, you wouldn't need the IS version for this.

I disagree with shooting wide open all the time. When the light is poor you have no option, but in good light f4 or f5.6 are perfectly fine. The thing to watch for is filling the frame with the action to separate the action from the background. Not easy with a 70-200. You have to wait for the action to come to you.

If you get a converter you will lose your f2.8 so its not going to help under floodlights.


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Sep 27, 2012 04:58 |  #12

Now you know how hard it is to make a good sports photo.

Pick your backgrounds and shooting lanes wisely next time.

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Sep 27, 2012 10:53 as a reply to  @ ajaffe's post |  #13

Next time, act like you've been there before:lol:

Even if you haven't

And I agree with Ajaffe, now you know it's a lot harder than it looks.


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Sep 27, 2012 13:34 as a reply to  @ elrey2375's post |  #14

I agree with the rest, you need way faster shutter speeds and longer focal length




  
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Sep 27, 2012 14:01 |  #15

ZXDrew wrote in post #15037958 (external link)
Crop tighter.

Actually, I would say shoot tighter. Fill the frame as much as possible. A soccer field is huge and at some point you have to say they are too far away and wait for the action to get closer.


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