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Upgrade? 70-200 f4 IS to a 135L

 
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Sep 26, 2012 10:59 |  #1

I'm shooting more professionally now (people), and I'm finding my 70-200 @ f4 isn't giving me the separation/flexibility I want and it's really not cutting it inside.

I've been eying a 85L forever, but can't justify the price tag. Likewise, the 70-200 2.8 is another contender, but I don't need a zoom for engagement shoots and it's out of my price range, too.

Anyone make this switch for similar reasons? Do you regret it?




  
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Sep 26, 2012 11:09 |  #2

Never had a 70-200, but heard the 85 1.8 is a cracker, up there with the 85L in some regards, at a fraction of the cost, so I've got one on order for portrait work.


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Sep 26, 2012 11:52 |  #3

the 85 1.8 is a great lens, and the AF is really, really fast. I would personally keep your 70-200 and give the 85 f/1.8 a try. When I use it for portraits, im very happy with the results (sometimes some fringing in bright areas, but nothing crazy, or that a RAW editor could not instantly fix).


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Sep 26, 2012 14:25 |  #4

Big reason I'm leaning towards the 135 is compression. Second is the fact that if I sell my 70-200, I'll have the money anyway.

I think the 85 1.8 would be a no brainer if I was going to keep my 70-200




  
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Sep 26, 2012 14:58 |  #5
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I have the 85 1.8. Excellent. I had the 135L and found it too long on APS-c. May work just fine for your 5D2. I thought the lens was phenomenal. It was just too long and not versatile enough for me. No complaints about the glass, though. I traded my 135L and 200 2.8L for a Sigma 70-200 f/2.8 OS HSM. It was a good move, for me. Let me add that I just do this for fun. I earn no money from my photography.


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Sep 26, 2012 15:19 |  #6

The 135/2 is a fantastic lens. The 85/1.8 is also quite good. They are the yin and yang of portrait lenses on a full frame camera.

I use them both... and a 70-200... For me they don't replace my 70-200/2.8 IS... I still use the zoom a lot. In fact it's probably my single most used lens... but I shoot a lot of sports/action where the zoom is essential. Someone specializing in portraiture might not need the speed and flexibility of a zoom.


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Sep 26, 2012 18:28 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #7

Obviously you have to decide if it's right for you, but the 135L is as good as everyone says it is and sharp (well sharp enough for me) at f2.

Perhaps replace the zoom with both a 135L and 85 1.8? There are times when the 135 can be a little long for full body shots, but if you have room then it's not too much of a problem.

It certainly doesn't seem like a silly thing to do IMO. With the f4 zoom there is a big difference between the two lenses.


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Sep 26, 2012 18:39 |  #8

you have a 35L and 50 so the 135L would be a good fit. I would eventually sell the 50 and get the 85 1.8 and you have the prime trinity (85L is a big investment and the 85 1.8 is really good I wouldn't upgrade) I had this set up and loved it but with a very fast 2 year old I found that the 70-200 2.8 was a better fit for how I shot rather than how I wanted to shoot.


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Sep 26, 2012 18:53 |  #9

ejenner wrote in post #15047078 (external link)
Obviously you have to decide if it's right for you, but the 135L is as good as everyone says it is and sharp (well sharp enough for me) at f2.

Perhaps replace the zoom with both a 135L and 85 1.8? There are times when the 135 can be a little long for full body shots, but if you have room then it's not too much of a problem.

It certainly doesn't seem like a silly thing to do IMO. With the f4 zoom there is a big difference between the two lenses.

Agree on all, and especially what I put in bold. There is two stop difference which is huge. If you had a f/2.8 IS, it would be a much harder choice.

I shoot on a crop (I saw you are on FF). I have the f/2.8 (MK1) not the f/4 and if I have the room I'd rather shoot with 135L for people. The ability to separate is noticeablely better for the135L compared to the f/2.8 zoom. Again that is on a crop, so FF it should be even more pronounced (plus your going from an f/4 - so even more so).

IMO there are only two things the zoom has over the 135L - IS and flexibility of its range. Each of those can beat the 135L in some situations, but (again IMO) not for formal posed photos of of people is not those times.

The 85mm (f/1.8 or the L) is a good length in a prime to complement the 135L. I don't make money from mine so went the f/1.8.


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Sep 26, 2012 20:27 |  #10

I would suggest checking out the 100mm f2 which is my second favorite portrait lens. I say second favorite because I also have the 135mm f2. There are more similarities than differences between the two. The 100mm will give you a bit more of that previously mentioned "compression" than the 85mm 1.8. I would keep the 70-200 f4. It's great for the versatility.




  
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Sep 27, 2012 12:57 |  #11

I recently sold my 70-200 f/4 IS for a 135 and I haven't regretted it yet! I also own the 85 and it's very comparable to the 135 but the color rendition and bokeh beat the 85.


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Sep 27, 2012 13:01 |  #12

I have both lenses, and for portrait work the zoom never leaves the bag. The 135L is that good, and its a bargain compared to the 85L.




  
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Sep 27, 2012 13:30 |  #13

Any problems hand holding with no IS?




  
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Sep 27, 2012 13:32 |  #14

All depends on the light available and you. The f/2 certainly gives you some leeway up to a certain point.


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Sep 27, 2012 13:36 |  #15

ZachOly wrote in post #15050480 (external link)
Any problems hand holding with no IS?

IS would be nice, but the way I generally use it, not much of an issue.




  
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