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Sep 29, 2012 06:35 |  #331

DamianOz wrote in post #15056985 (external link)
What are you expecting to find?

I think the difference is that even though people are asking for photos, they're trying to compare SOOC ones for this lens versus PP brick photos. After all, why would people post up non-processed photos in the brick thread? Lens has been out for 10+ years. That's why we get all the "I dont see any impressive photos" comments...They're not comparing apples to apples.


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Sep 29, 2012 07:36 |  #332

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Would you post the crop of the dump truck, without any processing please?
By the way, your tutorial on sharpening is very informative, thanks.

Sure. I reset ACR but left sharpening at 25 which is the default. If I had used DPP I would have left it at 3. To be fair you need to add a tad for the anti aliasing filter. Resized in PS - bicubic (not sharper).


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Sep 29, 2012 07:51 |  #333

digital paradise wrote in post #15057268 (external link)
To be fair you need to add a tad for the anti aliasing filter. Resized in PS - bicubic (not sharper).

If only I knew what this means :confused:


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Sep 29, 2012 08:03 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #334

The Anti Aliasing filter which is placed on the sensor to prevent Moire patterns.

http://www.exploratori​um.edu …moire_patterns/​index.html (external link)

This filter makes an image look softer. Canon tends to use a pretty strong filter which can create a pretty soft image that often throws people off that are new to Canon. Some people have them removed. You can send your camera to a company that does that.


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Sep 29, 2012 08:09 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #335

Thanks dp. what method in PS/ACR do you use to compensate for the anti aliasing filter softening effect?


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Sep 29, 2012 08:16 |  #336

David Arbogast wrote in post #15056173 (external link)
Well bummer. :( I'm getting an "Forbidden. You don't have permission to access...." error and can't view his site. Anyone else having that problem? Maybe because I'm on my iPad?

Yeah, but I think it's back on line now http://www.markcareyph​otography.com …0mm-f2-8-ii-usm-l-review/ (external link)
I think these are the best photos I've seen so far using the 24-70 II




  
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Sep 29, 2012 08:22 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #337

The 70mm image if the truck looked weak (which was my fault) which does not reflect the colour and contrast of this lens. Here is an unprocessed image of the green wall.

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Sep 29, 2012 08:34 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #338

thanks for posting, very useful.


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Sep 29, 2012 08:37 |  #339

mrmarks wrote in post #15057357 (external link)
Yeah, but I think it's back on line now http://www.markcareyph​otography.com …0mm-f2-8-ii-usm-l-review/ (external link)
I think these are the best photos I've seen so far using the 24-70 II

I think I need to learn more about PP, to me most of those as blown out, non are from camera like that. People seem to like that style of PP, I need to learn more on this I think


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Sep 29, 2012 08:54 |  #340

DamianOz wrote in post #15057347 (external link)
Thanks dp. what method in PS/ACR do you use to compensate for the anti aliasing filter softening effect?

Before I start sorry for going off topic.

I base my sharpening on this persons method which is really very simple. He was a PS guru and came up with the 3 phases of sharpening - capture - creative - output.

http://www.pixelgenius​.com/bios/bruce_bio.ht​ml (external link)

This is the group he was in.

http://www.pixelgenius​.com/people.html (external link)

This is basically it

Capture sharpening. Compensates for capture stage which produces a soft image. One factor being the AA filter. I normally just leave ACR/LR at the default of 25. DPP I set at 3 but you can sharpen to taste.

Creative sharpening. Here you do selective sharpening. For a portrait you may want to just sharpen the eyes and lips only.

Output sharpening. Here it gets a little more tricky. You sharpen for the media you will be using. Screen or paper. What type of paper? I'm not an expert on this but for my hobby shots I use that Really Smart Sharpening method and over sharpen at 300. What I like about is you can feather back the sharpening. Some images look good at 300 some need to be feathered back half way and some look bad if any sharpening is applied. Every image is different.

LR users will notice when exporting files they get a choice - Screen or paper (and what type) and the amount. I learned the Pixel Genius group developed this output sharpening for LR. Personally I had a hard time with it at first because I did not have control over it. After testing 8 by 10 prints I found LR output sharpening worked well and I do not hesitate to use it for mass edits. I just ask the client which type of paper and the amount is normally standard. Again for hobby I use my own action which gives me more control.

http://www.creativepro​.com …-on-a-sharpening-workflow (external link)

Here are two very good videos which helped me as well.

http://www.youtube.com …4mV3NsLmXw&feat​ure=relmfu (external link)

http://www.youtube.com …feature=player_​embedded#! (external link)


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Sep 29, 2012 09:45 |  #341

digital paradise wrote in post #15057433 (external link)
Before I start sorry for going off topic.

I base my sharpening on this persons method which is really very simple. He was a PS guru and came up with the 3 phases of sharpening - capture - creative - output.

http://www.pixelgenius​.com/bios/bruce_bio.ht​ml (external link)

This is the group he was in.

http://www.pixelgenius​.com/people.html (external link)

This is basically it

Capture sharpening. Compensates for capture stage which produces a soft image. One factor being the AA filter. I normally just leave ACR/LR at the default of 25. DPP I set at 3 but you can sharpen to taste.

Creative sharpening. Here you do selective sharpening. For a portrait you may want to just sharpen the eyes and lips only.

Output sharpening. Here it gets a little more tricky. You sharpen for the media you will be using. Screen or paper. What type of paper? I'm not an expert on this but for my hobby shots I use that Really Smart Sharpening method and over sharpen at 300. What I like about is you can feather back the sharpening. Some images look good at 300 some need to be feathered back half way and some look bad if any sharpening is applied. Every image is different.

LR users will notice when exporting files they get a choice - Screen or paper (and what type) and the amount. I learned the Pixel Genius group developed this output sharpening for LR. Personally I had a hard time with it at first because I did not have control over it. After testing 8 by 10 prints I found LR output sharpening worked well and I do not hesitate to use it for mass edits. I just ask the client which type of paper and the amount is normally standard. Again for hobby I use my own action which gives me more control.

http://www.creativepro​.com …-on-a-sharpening-workflow (external link)

Here are two very good videos which helped me as well.

http://www.youtube.com …4mV3NsLmXw&feat​ure=relmfu (external link)

http://www.youtube.com …feature=player_​embedded#! (external link)

My apologies for taking this of topic also
I thank you very much for your effort to help me, that is great info for me to work with. cheers :D


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Sep 29, 2012 09:49 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #342

It happens and I think the mods are tolerant as long as we correct ourselves quickly and things are civil. You can find most of this info here but sometimes trying to find it can take as long as trying to learn it :D.


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Sep 29, 2012 11:40 |  #343

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Manual focus? I grew up with manual focus? Afraid of it? No, but Julian...welcome to 2012...all my lenses have pretty good AF, except my 2 TSE's :D

:lol: You got my sense of humor. ;)




  
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Sep 29, 2012 17:46 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #344

A few from last night:

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Sep 29, 2012 20:44 as a reply to  @ post 14957598 |  #345

Looking mighty good. Your shots are tempting me, Steve.

Any problems with the outer AF points?


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